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"Edge"

Now ive never been a big fan of edge since he got into singles, I have always found christian to be the better of the the two.
But now theres all talk of the wwe asking him to change his look, mainly to cut his hair and change his entrance.
I agree with both of those ideas...the long hair is way gone, fans dont like that sort of thing on the male wrestlers anymore. And im sick of the way he comes running out trying to get the crowd 'into' it the way he does. A good wrestler should be able t do this without screaming at them asking them to cheer and all that other rubbish he does on his way to the ring.
I think its time he had a hair cut, new music, new outfit infact, somthing a bit darker maybe. And more importantly he needs to go heel.Hell the fans boo him anyways so he might aswell just go with it.
They should have kept him on smackdown aswell as theres no room for him on raw and smackdown needs some bigs names back on there. Have him feud for the U.S title and do it fast before the crowd get on him like they did with X-Pac.

Orton's been in most of the best matches so far this year...if you look at WWE.com's polls after PPV events, Randy's matches have almost always been the most popular, including his match against Mick Foley which is so far the best match of this year in my view. Obviously Foley was partly responsible for that. :P

Usually I agree with ya Matt, but not with that last statement. :P

I'd have to agree with Congy. I think Edge is a pretty good all rounder. He definitely needs a character adjustment but that doesn't really affect his matches that much.

Plus he got a half decent match out of Orton which must mean something.

Tazz wrote:
> Very_Metal wrote:
> The Hardys vs E&C Ladder match at No Mercy was one of the best
> matches i've ever seen. Edge's gimmick may not be the best, but it's
> in NO way as bad as you lot are making out.
>
> "Any wrestler should know that it is his obligation to put his
> career on the line in order to get his paycheck." - this is
> without a doubt one of the stupidest things i've ever heard. in
> absolutely NO job would you be expected to jeopardise your future
> for
> a weeks pay...
>
> Oh, so I suppose the antics of the late great ECW were all entirely
> safe?

for the most part.. yeah

> Sure, these people were trained, but to be in hardcore
> wrestling, if you ain't willing to be landed on your neck or your
> head night after night, if hesitant about being hit with a chair
> then, sorry, dude, you're out, we don't want you.

"we don't want you"??
ok, you realise you're not ACTUALLY Tazz, right??

hardcore wrestling is not all about taking excessively dangerous bumps dude, it's about the spectacle. Think about it, flaming tables, thumb tacks, barbed wire, etc are all pretty brutal, but relatively fast to recover from.

> "absolutely NO job"? I disagree. And I think I'm
> justified.
>
> ...'nuff said.

no, not "'nuff said", don't be so presumptuous as to assume that there's no counter argument.

as i said above, hardocre wrestling and deathmatching is about spectacle. Both these events have to be presented by a wrestling promotion. a wrestling promotion is a business. what sense does it make for a business to encourage it's workers to become unavailable? absolutely none whatsoever. Sure, ECW had some huge spots and some sick bumps but if you think for one second that the safety of the workers wasn't the first concern then you're very, very wrong.

How come everyone who loved Edge before his injury have suddenly turned on him? I think he's a good all-rounder, who doesn't excel in any particular area but can have a good match against a variety of different workers. He reminds me of Sting circa 1991.

Ant wrote:
> I can't believe they let some pansy like Edge punk out and beat Randy
> twice in the space of two weeks...
>
> Randy owns him - he is the future of the WWE, not Edge...

Amen.

Very_Metal wrote:
> The Hardys vs E&C Ladder match at No Mercy was one of the best
> matches i've ever seen. Edge's gimmick may not be the best, but it's
> in NO way as bad as you lot are making out.
>
> "Any wrestler should know that it is his obligation to put his
> career on the line in order to get his paycheck." - this is
> without a doubt one of the stupidest things i've ever heard. in
> absolutely NO job would you be expected to jeopardise your future for
> a weeks pay...

Oh, so I suppose the antics of the late great ECW were all entirely safe? Sure, these people were trained, but to be in hardcore wrestling, if you ain't willing to be landed on your neck or your head night after night, if hesitant about being hit with a chair then, sorry, dude, you're out, we don't want you. So, "absolutely NO job"? I disagree. And I think I'm justified.

...'nuff said.

Its a shame cause i miss the tlc matches.

lalakersrule wrote:
> Very_Metal wrote:
> all people are built differently and they ALL have to work through
> injuries.
> Jeff Hardy was a wreck by the time he left and the TLC matches
> aren't
> the SOLE reason for his surgery are they??
>
>
> Nah i'm sure falling off the guardrail each show had something to do
> with it as well :-D

hehe, yeah.. he's taken that chest bump more than anyone else in history. one day he'll connect with that move :)

mr sunday night wrote:
> jeff hardlty was a mess cause he started doing drugs

correction: became dependant on prescription drugs to counter the pain .... because his body was a wreck.

> and lost his passion for the sport..

well yeah that's true, although he has said he'll probably find it again one day...

Very_Metal wrote:
> all people are built differently and they ALL have to work through
> injuries.
> Jeff Hardy was a wreck by the time he left and the TLC matches aren't
> the SOLE reason for his surgery are they??


Nah i'm sure falling off the guardrail each show had something to do with it as well :-D