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Music, a lifestyle choice?
Music maybe well be an overlooked aspect of the life that one chooses to lead; I do use the word ‘may’ here with some degree of caution. Does the sort of music a person chooses to listen to have an impact on their lifestyle or does a person’s lifestyle denote the sort of music a person will listen to?
It is no coincidence that the majority of people who listen to rap and hip hop music tend to aspire to or relate to gang behaviour and suchlike. Especially in North America this can be shown; the street gangs roll around in their pimped-up cars listening to rap music, not hardcore Swedish trance or Slipknot. Now rap music generally talk about “popping caps in people’s ass”, something gangs (especially in North America) tend to do. So the question I am asking is does listening to these lyrics make a person more inclined to indulge in gang behaviour, or does their gang behaviour lead them to listen to music that reflects their lifestyle? Then there is the matter of “bling”. Do people who wear “bling” do so because they think it looks good or because of the fact their musical idols do so? I’d be inclined to say it was the latter. Then there are other things; people who are in gangs and listen to rap music are also more likely to carry a gun on their person with the intent of using it (again, mostly in North America) – does this stem from listening to lyrics about guns and violence or would they still carry weapons without their choice of music?
Moving away from rap, is it a coincidence that people who listen to metal or ‘gothic’ music generally have a more negative outlook on life? The lyrics of most metal/grunge/goth bands are typically about how bad life is, how people are the diseases on the face on the crumbling Earth and we’ll all die alone and be forgotten. Whilst depression can be a medical thing that has nothing to do with anything else, it can also be due to ones activities and if a person listens to a band telling them how bad life is, surely that will have an impact on their outlook. Or could it be that already depressed or angst-filled people turn to metal/grunge/goth music because it reflects their own lives in some way, and as such provides an outlet of some sort by listening to it?
You can also ask the same questions of people who listen to pop music; without pop music would they still be the same air-headed giggle-bags who think they’re God’s gift to the opposite sex, or do empty boy-band lyrics turn them that way? Does classical music make you 50 and own a Mercedes or is it a status thing? Do people who miss their youth listen to music from their ‘own generation’ to try and rekindle their youth, or do they just like the music? Then you can ask, are people with broader music tastes more socially accepted than those with niche tastes in music?
You can ask the question for any genre of music, I believe.
What would be really interesting would be to take music away from society and see what happened. Would gang behaviour dry up, would depressed teenagers stop crying their nights away in their room listening to Nirvana and would trance fans stop popping pills and twitching? Or would segregated culture survive without music to accentuate its being? Who knows, but its certainly a good point to ponder.
Music maybe well be an overlooked aspect of the life that one chooses to lead; I do use the word ‘may’ here with some degree of caution. Does the sort of music a person chooses to listen to have an impact on their lifestyle or does a person’s lifestyle denote the sort of music a person will listen to?
It is no coincidence that the majority of people who listen to rap and hip hop music tend to aspire to or relate to gang behaviour and suchlike. Especially in North America this can be shown; the street gangs roll around in their pimped-up cars listening to rap music, not hardcore Swedish trance or Slipknot. Now rap music generally talk about “popping caps in people’s ass”, something gangs (especially in North America) tend to do. So the question I am asking is does listening to these lyrics make a person more inclined to indulge in gang behaviour, or does their gang behaviour lead them to listen to music that reflects their lifestyle? Then there is the matter of “bling”. Do people who wear “bling” do so because they think it looks good or because of the fact their musical idols do so? I’d be inclined to say it was the latter. Then there are other things; people who are in gangs and listen to rap music are also more likely to carry a gun on their person with the intent of using it (again, mostly in North America) – does this stem from listening to lyrics about guns and violence or would they still carry weapons without their choice of music?
Moving away from rap, is it a coincidence that people who listen to metal or ‘gothic’ music generally have a more negative outlook on life? The lyrics of most metal/grunge/goth bands are typically about how bad life is, how people are the diseases on the face on the crumbling Earth and we’ll all die alone and be forgotten. Whilst depression can be a medical thing that has nothing to do with anything else, it can also be due to ones activities and if a person listens to a band telling them how bad life is, surely that will have an impact on their outlook. Or could it be that already depressed or angst-filled people turn to metal/grunge/goth music because it reflects their own lives in some way, and as such provides an outlet of some sort by listening to it?
You can also ask the same questions of people who listen to pop music; without pop music would they still be the same air-headed giggle-bags who think they’re God’s gift to the opposite sex, or do empty boy-band lyrics turn them that way? Does classical music make you 50 and own a Mercedes or is it a status thing? Do people who miss their youth listen to music from their ‘own generation’ to try and rekindle their youth, or do they just like the music? Then you can ask, are people with broader music tastes more socially accepted than those with niche tastes in music?
You can ask the question for any genre of music, I believe.
What would be really interesting would be to take music away from society and see what happened. Would gang behaviour dry up, would depressed teenagers stop crying their nights away in their room listening to Nirvana and would trance fans stop popping pills and twitching? Or would segregated culture survive without music to accentuate its being? Who knows, but its certainly a good point to ponder.
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I think you're being slightly stereotypical when you say:
would trance fans stop popping pills and twitching?
Becase I like dance/trance and have never popped a pill in my life.
Perhaps peoples stereotypes of other genres make them overlook the actual music, or the person who listens to that sort of music?
would trance fans stop popping pills and twitching?
Becase I like dance/trance and have never popped a pill in my life.
Perhaps peoples stereotypes of other genres make them overlook the actual music, or the person who listens to that sort of music?
MarkF wrote:
> It's the
> same with goth music, why is there not a single fan of that style of
> music that doesn't wear gothy clothes and paint their nails black?
I am. I don't wear gothy clothes or paint my nails black.
> It's the
> same with goth music, why is there not a single fan of that style of
> music that doesn't wear gothy clothes and paint their nails black?
I am. I don't wear gothy clothes or paint my nails black.
MarkF wrote:
> Why is there not a single fan of that style of
> music that doesn't wear gothy clothes and paint their nails black?
CASE STUDY: ME
I'm not totally into goth, I tend slightly towards what I would call Industrial. NIN, Pitchshifter, HIM. Quite mainstream stuff, but even so. I'm not at all you're cliched metal fan. So I would be your single fan. I'm wearing an aqua blue top shop t-shirt and black combats. I've got my hair dyed blonde, and I am not wearing any nail varnish.
> Why is there not a single fan of that style of
> music that doesn't wear gothy clothes and paint their nails black?
CASE STUDY: ME
I'm not totally into goth, I tend slightly towards what I would call Industrial. NIN, Pitchshifter, HIM. Quite mainstream stuff, but even so. I'm not at all you're cliched metal fan. So I would be your single fan. I'm wearing an aqua blue top shop t-shirt and black combats. I've got my hair dyed blonde, and I am not wearing any nail varnish.
Rosalind wrote:
> CASE STUDY: ME
> I'm not totally into goth, I tend slightly towards what I would call
> Industrial. NIN, Pitchshifter, HIM. Quite mainstream stuff, but
> even so. I'm not at all you're cliched metal fan. So I would be
> your single fan. I'm wearing an aqua blue top shop t-shirt and black
> combats. I've got my hair dyed blonde, and I am not wearing any
> nail varnish.
Nice to here it. Me? Shaved head, jeans and a t-shirt, a few facial piercings and currently listening to Frontline Assembly.
> CASE STUDY: ME
> I'm not totally into goth, I tend slightly towards what I would call
> Industrial. NIN, Pitchshifter, HIM. Quite mainstream stuff, but
> even so. I'm not at all you're cliched metal fan. So I would be
> your single fan. I'm wearing an aqua blue top shop t-shirt and black
> combats. I've got my hair dyed blonde, and I am not wearing any
> nail varnish.
Nice to here it. Me? Shaved head, jeans and a t-shirt, a few facial piercings and currently listening to Frontline Assembly.
Sorry if I caused any offence, but where I come from that's generally the case. I have a friend called Rob, he used to love Marylin Manson and slipknot, he started hanging around with townies, he now loves r kelly and trance, denies he ever liked maryilin manson
I
listen to (most played on my PC): The Smiths, The Cure, The Libertines, Idlewild, Funeral for a Friend, Maiden (although not much for the old Iron anymore, to be honest)
have hair that can touch my nipple
wear football shirts, trackies, mainly
hate the whole 'mosher' scene
never go out
People think that the type of music you listen to defines the kind of person you are, in school and stuff. They just don't understand.
listen to (most played on my PC): The Smiths, The Cure, The Libertines, Idlewild, Funeral for a Friend, Maiden (although not much for the old Iron anymore, to be honest)
have hair that can touch my nipple
wear football shirts, trackies, mainly
hate the whole 'mosher' scene
never go out
People think that the type of music you listen to defines the kind of person you are, in school and stuff. They just don't understand.
Your Honour wrote:
> I think you're being slightly stereotypical when you say:
>
> would trance fans stop popping pills and twitching?
Of course I am being overly stereotypical. I tried to make that very clear mate. I'm a trance fan, I've never taken speed or E, I also like rap but I've never shot a whitey.
> I think you're being slightly stereotypical when you say:
>
> would trance fans stop popping pills and twitching?
Of course I am being overly stereotypical. I tried to make that very clear mate. I'm a trance fan, I've never taken speed or E, I also like rap but I've never shot a whitey.
If you like the smiths you'd like shed seven, anyone like Thin Lizzy? The Levellers?
MarkF wrote:
> Sorry if I caused any offence, but where I come from that's generally
> the case.
No offense taken, and it is usually the case. Whilst I love industrial and other gothy style bands I've also a sweet spot for agressive dance music. One of my friends listens to ock and nothing else. they can't understand how I can love stuff like Ministry / Front 242 / Carbon 12 and yet enjoy Fleetwood Mac too.
*Shrug* I used to have hair down to my waist, but that went the journey after five years growing it in January.
> Sorry if I caused any offence, but where I come from that's generally
> the case.
No offense taken, and it is usually the case. Whilst I love industrial and other gothy style bands I've also a sweet spot for agressive dance music. One of my friends listens to ock and nothing else. they can't understand how I can love stuff like Ministry / Front 242 / Carbon 12 and yet enjoy Fleetwood Mac too.
*Shrug* I used to have hair down to my waist, but that went the journey after five years growing it in January.
Rosalind wrote:
> I think your wrong about metal/goth (which is the only type of music I
> feel able to comment on in this context). In my experiance Metal etc
> Fans are some of the most outgoing, happy pleasant people I've ever
> met.
I'd like to think of myself as a fairly outgoing person, but I do have binges of depression and am also a metal fan. I'd be more inclined to say I listen to metal music as it reflects my lifestyle a little bit, but also because I just like the sound. I was trying to make a few stereotyped examples (because there is the mock-depression incorporated by goths), to try and see what people thought on the matter. I wasn't trying to make critical definitions of segregated society.
> I think your wrong about metal/goth (which is the only type of music I
> feel able to comment on in this context). In my experiance Metal etc
> Fans are some of the most outgoing, happy pleasant people I've ever
> met.
I'd like to think of myself as a fairly outgoing person, but I do have binges of depression and am also a metal fan. I'd be more inclined to say I listen to metal music as it reflects my lifestyle a little bit, but also because I just like the sound. I was trying to make a few stereotyped examples (because there is the mock-depression incorporated by goths), to try and see what people thought on the matter. I wasn't trying to make critical definitions of segregated society.
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