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Wed 16/06/04 at 16:39
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Watching SkySports News earlier, I see their latest 'Yes/No' Interactive Vote is whether or not David Beckham should remain our regular penalty-kick taker after that miss against France on Sunday.

First of all, the majority of all votes went in his favour.
But then, the greater percentage edged over to 'No'.
And now.... Sorry, I don't know!


But, I did "waste" 25p+ on a text message voting in favour of a new spot-kick taker. Someone more accustomed to goal-scoring and driving the ball down the middle - much like Alan Shearer - rather than going for poncey old placement.

To tell you the truth, I've never really understood why he was chosen for any reason other than for the 'BS' and hype Sven-Goran Eriksson buys into, anyway! His free-kicks may be immaculate and he is captain, but does that
make him the ideal choice as "fans' favourite"?

I can't think of a single time he took on for Man. United OUTSIDE of a Charity Shield game. There was that one-time while he was on-loan at Preston a decade ago, and then there was that "Jonny Wilkinson" against Turkey - that's all I can recall before France.

Paul Scholes can really hit them. Michael Owen's our No.1 for finishing. When playing, Frank Lampard's had a 100% record for Chelsea this past season. I'm sure Steven Gerard could do the right thing when called upon. Wayne Rooney's fast-becoming everybody's favourite, and I'm sure even David James would know exactly where to put the ball...


I'm after your opinions on this matter, please. And, at 'no-price-to-pay', I'm after more than just a simple 'Yes' or 'No' answer, thanks.


Should David Beckham still be taking penalty kicks for England?

If not, who would you choose and why?


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Also, their are two opinions (as ever in these big games) as to what 'that' actually was.

In your opinion, was it a good save from Fabien Barthez, or, simply, a crap penalty from David Beckham?

As arrogant Englishman who are likely to stand behind their nonced-up Pop Idolic leader, I'd expect the major part of this country to be applauding "Broken-Nose" Barthez for his heroics, whatever the final result.

What do YOU think?
Wed 16/06/04 at 19:45
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I'm not in favour, he got bloody lucky against the Argies when he drilled it right down the middle and was saved by a rubbish keeper. But then who else is there to take them? The less said about Owen the better, Rooney is still a little to young to be taking a huge penalty like that and everyone else isn't exactly spanking them in from the penalty spot for their clubs so i guess we have to put up with the over-rated walking advertisement
Wed 16/06/04 at 19:42
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Solskjær wrote:

>
> In your opinion, was it a good save from Fabien Barthez, or,
> simply, a crap penalty from David Beckham?
>
> What do YOU think?


Any penalty saved or missed must be deemed crap. No keeper should be able to save a penalty, therfore it was a crap penalty.
Wed 16/06/04 at 19:37
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ÂLІÂÎR wrote:
> It's the Scottish league for facks sake, Alan Thompson shouldn't be in
> the England side, I fail to see what he offers that Owen Hargreaves
> or Nicky Butt don't and aside from that Dyer deserves a chance.

Typical ignorance as usual. He plays in the Scottish league, which granted isn't the best, but he's performed really well in Europe as well when Celtic have played there. And in these matches they are playing better opposition. He had an outstanding match and scored against Barcelona, and has been Celtic's most concistent player in Europe for two years now. And what he offers that Hargreaves, Butt or Dyer don't, is that he is a naturally left-footed player. Which is why England need, a lot.

> The only things Svaen makes mistakes with are with James and his
> persistance to stick with Scholes despite failing to score or look
> dangerous at all in his last 22 England games.

Honestly though... who is better than David James? He's the best England have got, and that's why he's in the team.


ÂLІÂÎR wrote:
> Larsson will only grab my eye when he performs week in week out
> against top quality sides. The Scottish league is an absolute joke. I
> have seen Larsson play a lot and in the games outside of the domestic
> walk over I have been impressed. It is all a matter of whether they
> can do it week in and week out against top quality teams.

Again, you appear blind. Considering that Larsson has scored more goals in European competition than any other player in British football, ever, I really don't think he still needs to prove himself. For god's sake, world class strikers like Owen, Van Nistelrooy and a handful of others have praised him, and I think they should know. Plus the whole ITV panel the other night. Not enough, no?

Larsson could play in any team in the world and score a bagful of goals each season. The fact he plays for Celtic in Scotland has bagger all to do with anything. You're just looking for pointless reasons to slate an incredible striker.
Wed 16/06/04 at 18:28
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The first name that sprang to mind for me if Beckham wasn't taking was Lampard. I too remember his superbly cool tucked away PK against Man Yoo in that crucial championship battle earlier in the season.

Though when you mention Rooney, I actually agree. People will come on here after this posting things like "he's too young", "he's not proven" and what have you. I'm sorry, but not only is the kid a relatively decent finisher, but he's fearless. What do you need most when taking a crucial penalty at the highest level, on the highest stage? You want somebody fearless, and so determined that they'd rather se themselves dead than that ball rolling past the post or into the goalies clutches.

Okay, so I went a bit over the top then, but I still agree. ;-P
Wed 16/06/04 at 18:16
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Personally I think Lampard should take them.

I've seen him take a few this season, and he's buried them. No messing around. In big games as well. He scored the penalty that beat United 1-0 (Thought I'd add that one in for you Solskjaer,Neo,lalakersrule.... :P)

Beckham shouldn't take them, because when he puts the ball on the spot, he doesn't look like scoring. And it was inevitable that he was gonna miss one sooner or later, and he did it at the worst possible moment.

Yeah so Frankie gets my vote, although I wouldn't mind seeing Rooney take one.....
Wed 16/06/04 at 17:47
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Backham shouldn't take penalties. I've never been convinced by them. No matter how many he scores, I always seem to feel he's just lucky when it goes in.
Wed 16/06/04 at 16:54
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Larsson will only grab my eye when he performs week in week out against top quality sides. The Scottish league is an absolute joke. I have seen Larsson play a lot and in the games outside of the domestic walk over I have been impressed. It is all a matter of whether they can do it week in and week out against top quality teams.

Hopefully he will drop into the Premiership next season.
Wed 16/06/04 at 16:51
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Would you honestly say the same about Henrik Larsson and Sweden though, ALASTAIR?

Don't forget, Alan Thompson did make his name in the Premiership with Aston Villa, mind.
Wed 16/06/04 at 16:46
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It's the Scottish league for facks sake, Alan Thompson shouldn't be in the England side, I fail to see what he offers that Owen Hargreaves or Nicky Butt don't and aside from that Dyer deserves a chance.

The only things Svaen makes mistakes with are with James and his persistance to stick with Scholes despite failing to score or look dangerous at all in his last 22 England games.

As for the penalties situation, I would personally give Lampard a bash, sweet striker of the ball.
Wed 16/06/04 at 16:42
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If you had Thompson in the team, he could take penalties, seeing as he scored about 5 or 6 this season and didn't miss any.

But no, Sven's an idiot.

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