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and not in the good way
> Look, all "Nazi" actually means is someone who is a member
> of "National Socialist German Workers' Party."
>
> The members of the party themselves were NOT racist or fascist (for
> the most part), just their leader. It was very much like a workers
> union (like the early labour party), not an evil BNP-style group.
Yeah, but the generally accepted meaning of Nazi nowadays is usually in reference to Hitler, his cronies and their views/actions. When people say 'nazi' they're usually referring to the ideals of Hitler and not the party.
> It's a beautiful concept. you've never read "The rights of
> man" by Thomas Payne, have you?
A beautiful concept, yes, but something that was never proven to be fully effective. But I'm not going to be drawn into a political argument so I'll probably withdraw from all of this. The only result from this thread is that a Newbie has questioned my nickname and has started a pointless argument.
But the technical meaning is something I can rub in people's faces.
> Paradox: wrote:
> It's a beautiful concept. you've never read "The rights of
> man" by Thomas Payne, have you?
>
> A beautiful concept, yes, but something that was never proven to be
> fully effective.
There have only been about 5 countries to try it. It works in China, sort of onder nice-guy Chairman Mau (not sure on spelling), the Chinese people don't complain, though if they did nobody would listen.
Russian communism didnt work BECAUSE Lenin died and Stalin took over and he was a greedy opressor. The other countries that have applied it are equally poor and corrupt.
However, let the political debate continue! =D
> A beautiful concept, yes, but something that was never proven to be
> fully effective.
Give it time.
It's supposed to happen naturally. At present the only communist regimes haven't come about 'properly'. They've all been premature revolutions, if you will, and not proper proletarian revolutions.
I think it was Marx who listed the natural stages of evolution of society, with cavedwellers at one end of the spectrum and communist paradise at the other.