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Wed 09/06/04 at 20:03
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Der Nazi tastes like foetal grindings



and not in the good way
Wed 09/06/04 at 20:53
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"Led Zeppelin"
Posts: 3,214
Communism is a great idea, but it will never work. Too may greedy people
Wed 09/06/04 at 20:54
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"aka memo aaka gayby"
Posts: 11,948
Paradox: wrote:
> Look, all "Nazi" actually means is someone who is a member
> of "National Socialist German Workers' Party."
>
> The members of the party themselves were NOT racist or fascist (for
> the most part), just their leader. It was very much like a workers
> union (like the early labour party), not an evil BNP-style group.

Yeah, but the generally accepted meaning of Nazi nowadays is usually in reference to Hitler, his cronies and their views/actions. When people say 'nazi' they're usually referring to the ideals of Hitler and not the party.
Wed 09/06/04 at 20:55
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"Hellfire Stoker"
Posts: 10,534
Paradox: wrote:
> It's a beautiful concept. you've never read "The rights of
> man" by Thomas Payne, have you?

A beautiful concept, yes, but something that was never proven to be fully effective. But I'm not going to be drawn into a political argument so I'll probably withdraw from all of this. The only result from this thread is that a Newbie has questioned my nickname and has started a pointless argument.
Wed 09/06/04 at 20:55
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"SOUP!"
Posts: 13,017
Yes, like a "Punctuation Nazi" would be someone who would corect your atrocious grammer in a dictatorial fashion.

But the technical meaning is something I can rub in people's faces.
Wed 09/06/04 at 20:57
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"SOUP!"
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Der Nazi wrote:
> Paradox: wrote:
> It's a beautiful concept. you've never read "The rights of
> man" by Thomas Payne, have you?
>
> A beautiful concept, yes, but something that was never proven to be
> fully effective.

There have only been about 5 countries to try it. It works in China, sort of onder nice-guy Chairman Mau (not sure on spelling), the Chinese people don't complain, though if they did nobody would listen.

Russian communism didnt work BECAUSE Lenin died and Stalin took over and he was a greedy opressor. The other countries that have applied it are equally poor and corrupt.
Wed 09/06/04 at 20:59
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"Hellfire Stoker"
Posts: 10,534
Look, I'm taking no further part in this. I simply can't be bothered to be drawn into an argument of any sort, and I am sick and tired of all this crap surrounding this thread.

However, let the political debate continue! =D
Wed 09/06/04 at 21:00
Regular
"aka memo aaka gayby"
Posts: 11,948
Der Nazi wrote:
> A beautiful concept, yes, but something that was never proven to be
> fully effective.

Give it time.
It's supposed to happen naturally. At present the only communist regimes haven't come about 'properly'. They've all been premature revolutions, if you will, and not proper proletarian revolutions.
Wed 09/06/04 at 21:01
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"SOUP!"
Posts: 13,017
proletarian, thats the word I was after.

I think it was Marx who listed the natural stages of evolution of society, with cavedwellers at one end of the spectrum and communist paradise at the other.
Wed 09/06/04 at 21:03
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"Hellfire Stoker"
Posts: 10,534
Well, I will only be convinced that Communism works when I see proof of it. China comes near enough, but there are still various restrictions, a lot of propoganda and a fair few problems. But this is a slightly less hardline regime.
Wed 09/06/04 at 21:04
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"SOUP!"
Posts: 13,017
But before communism works it needs a proletarian dictator to ease from democracy to communism, (think Lenin, Chairman Mau) but it has never got much past the dictatorial stage yet. China isn't a communist paradise, is it?

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