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While I was browsing the site you can find if you [URL]http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14510&page=2&pp=15[/URL] , I came across this interesting story.
Some people were arguing over which version of Taoism was the best (Taoism was an alternative to Buddhism in China) and also what was best out of Buddhism and Taoism (which was silly considering that they're both so similar and a proper Taoist/Buddhist wouldn't be bothered by who's belief is best...) and a guy came out with this analogy:
It's like in the old story of the blind guys all grabbing an elephant on a different part and then trying to describe to each other what an elephant really is based on the one part they have in their hands. One guy has an ear, one guy has the tail, one guy has the torso, one guy has a leg, another guy has a tusk. They all have a real part of the elephant, but they also all have completely different descriptions and end up getting mad and yelling at each other about what an elephant is really like. It isn't because they are stupid or wrong, it is because they can't see the rest of the elephant.
Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, you name it, they all have dozens, if not hundreds, of sects just because of "blindness" regarding their other parts. If you dig into the roots of the traditions you'll see that most of the founders of different religions all warned against this happening. But, people being who they are, everyone wants their part of the elephant to be the best one and don't give a monkey's (or an elephant's) butt about the other parts (if they even admit that other parts exist) and spend all day yelling about their own.
Do you think that God has revealed EVERYTHING there is to know about him in your Bible?
Even if you were to be right, that would not necessarily make over religions and beliefs wrong?
What do you think? :-)
Some people were arguing over which version of Taoism was the best (Taoism was an alternative to Buddhism in China) and also what was best out of Buddhism and Taoism (which was silly considering that they're both so similar and a proper Taoist/Buddhist wouldn't be bothered by who's belief is best...) and a guy came out with this analogy:
It's like in the old story of the blind guys all grabbing an elephant on a different part and then trying to describe to each other what an elephant really is based on the one part they have in their hands. One guy has an ear, one guy has the tail, one guy has the torso, one guy has a leg, another guy has a tusk. They all have a real part of the elephant, but they also all have completely different descriptions and end up getting mad and yelling at each other about what an elephant is really like. It isn't because they are stupid or wrong, it is because they can't see the rest of the elephant.
Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, you name it, they all have dozens, if not hundreds, of sects just because of "blindness" regarding their other parts. If you dig into the roots of the traditions you'll see that most of the founders of different religions all warned against this happening. But, people being who they are, everyone wants their part of the elephant to be the best one and don't give a monkey's (or an elephant's) butt about the other parts (if they even admit that other parts exist) and spend all day yelling about their own.
Do you think that God has revealed EVERYTHING there is to know about him in your Bible?
Even if you were to be right, that would not necessarily make over religions and beliefs wrong?
What do you think? :-)
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Forest Fan wrote:
> Actually man created evolution, which is why you believe a 'theory'...
Yes, but it is based on fact. Are any religions based on fact?
> Actually man created evolution, which is why you believe a 'theory'...
Yes, but it is based on fact. Are any religions based on fact?
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Yes, and we also created religion.
Man did.
> Yes, and we also created religion.
Man did.
Forest Fan wrote:
> But WHERE did the matter come from?
> WHERE?
>
> That's my point.
Well, we can see back as far as microseconds after the big bang.
What came before is a mystery so far.
In the meantime, it's always been there.
As to evolution, what scientific laws does it break?
If you're talking about the 2nd law of thermodynamics then we've been over this and it DOESN'T! :-P
The reason why evolution is taught as science is because the theory was inducted through scientific thinking.
Creationist tend to believe the religious story of creation, and then find scientific "facts" to back themselves up. So creationism is taught as religion.
You see? :-)
> But WHERE did the matter come from?
> WHERE?
>
> That's my point.
Well, we can see back as far as microseconds after the big bang.
What came before is a mystery so far.
In the meantime, it's always been there.
As to evolution, what scientific laws does it break?
If you're talking about the 2nd law of thermodynamics then we've been over this and it DOESN'T! :-P
The reason why evolution is taught as science is because the theory was inducted through scientific thinking.
Creationist tend to believe the religious story of creation, and then find scientific "facts" to back themselves up. So creationism is taught as religion.
You see? :-)
Forest Fan wrote:
> Actually man created evolution, which is why you believe a 'theory'...
Yes, and we also created religion.
> Actually man created evolution, which is why you believe a 'theory'...
Yes, and we also created religion.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Some of them contradict scientific laws, that's why.
some of ur believes contradict scientific laws so does that mean that u talk bull****
> Some of them contradict scientific laws, that's why.
some of ur believes contradict scientific laws so does that mean that u talk bull****
Some of them contradict scientific laws, that's why.
Deathskitten wrote:
> Y do you insist that everyone elses beliefs are bull**** except yours
Yup.
> Y do you insist that everyone elses beliefs are bull**** except yours
Yup.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Actually man created evolution, which is why you believe a 'theory'...
Y do you insist that everyone elses beliefs are bull**** except yours
> Actually man created evolution, which is why you believe a 'theory'...
Y do you insist that everyone elses beliefs are bull**** except yours
Actually man created evolution, which is why you believe a 'theory'...
Forest Fan wrote:
> On a practical level, you can see that every masterpiece needs a
> creator and God is the creator of the universe.
God didn't create the universe or man, man created god, to try to explain the great unknown and our origins.
> On a practical level, you can see that every masterpiece needs a
> creator and God is the creator of the universe.
God didn't create the universe or man, man created god, to try to explain the great unknown and our origins.
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