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Fri 07/05/04 at 07:40
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I'll put this up while i'm in the right frame of mind to post it, your views are wlecome.

FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS
The Four Noble Truths represent the core of
the teachings of the Buddha, and are as follows:

The First Noble Truth
Unsatisfactoriness and suffering exist and
are universally experienced.

The Second Noble Truth
Desire and attachment are the causes of
unsatisfactoriness and suffering.

The Third Noble Truth
There is an end to
unsatisfactoriness and suffering.

The Fourth Noble Truth
The end can be attained by
journeying on the Noble Eightfold Path.




NOBLE EIGHTFOLD PATH
Right Understanding
Right Thinking
Right Speech
Right Action
Right Livelihood
Right Effort
Right Mindfulness
Right Concentration

1. Right View

See things as they truly are without delusions or distortions
for all things change. Develop wisdom by knowing how things
work, knowing oneself and others.

2. Right Intention

Wholehearted resolution and dedication to overcoming the
dislocation of self-centered craving through the development
of loving kindness, empathy and compassion.

3. Right Speech

Abstinence from lies and deceptions, backbiting, idle
babble and abusive speech. Cultivate honesty and
truthfulness; practice speech that is kind and benevolent.
Let your words reflect your desire to help, not harm others.

4.Right Action

Practice self-less conduct that reflects the highest
statement of the life you want to live. Express conduct
that is peaceful, honest and pure showing compassion
for all beings.

5. Right Livelihood

Avoidance of work that causes suffering to others or that
makes a decent, virtuous life impossible. Do not engage
in any occupation that opposes or distracts one from the
path. Love and serve our world through your work.

6. Right Effort

Seek to make the balance between the exertion of following
the spiritual path and a moderate life that is not over-zealous.
Work to develop more wholesome mind states, while gently
striving to go deeper and live more fully.

7. Right Mindfulness

Through constant vigilance in thought, speech and action
seek to rid the mind of self-centered thoughts that separate
and replace them with those that bind all beings together.
Be aware of your thoughts, emotions, body and world as they
exist in the present moment. Your thoughts create your reality.

8. Right Concentration

Through the application of meditation and mental discipline seek
to extinguish the last flame of grasping consciousness and develop
an emptiness that has room to embrace and love all things.
Thu 13/05/04 at 16:31
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Forest Fan wrote:

> Says me, unless you can prove otherwise. Besides, I thought Buddha
> didn't teach about God. Did he?


Mwah haa haaaa! So you're condemning him without actually knowing anything? How very typical of you; fearing anything different.

Tell you what; how about you prove that the biblical writers were divinely inspired.
Thu 13/05/04 at 16:29
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Flockhart wrote:
> Says who ?

Says me, unless you can prove otherwise. Besides, I thought Buddha didn't teach about God. Did he?
Thu 13/05/04 at 16:27
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> Forest Fan wrote:
> because after all Buddha was just a mere man,
> who was not in direct contact with God?

Says who ?
Thu 13/05/04 at 16:26
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Forest Fan wrote:

>
> Semitic = Arabic/Jewish
>
> Jewish = Hebrew

Nuh uh dear boy. If that's what you're saying, then you're claiming to be Jewish, right? Fully Jewish, yeah? Which, as you're a christian, is (as we've discussed, and as you've failed consistently to address by any means other than "I AM BOTH, SO HA!") a theological impossibility. Try again.
>
> Hence, I can be called 'Semitic', 'Jewish' or 'Hebrew' in
> background.

That's not all you can be called, is it oh cowardly and hypocritical one?

>
> Not that I am particularly expecting to be martyred any time soon,
> there is a special blessing for it and a crown in Heaven.

Yeah? Well if you're that anxious to be martyred, go to Mecca, stand up and shout "You're all a bunch of ignorant fuzzy wuzzy's and you're going straight to hell". That ought to do it.

Christ, you sound as bad as the lunatics of Al-Quaida...

>
> "So then, none of you can be My disciple who does not give up
> all his own possessions." Luke 14:33

And that has what to do with martyrdom?
Thu 13/05/04 at 16:23
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Forest Fan wrote:

>
> All these men were under the influence of God, the Holy Spirit. The
> Bible is the Lord's Book, but the Word of God, came to the writer's,
> God dictated the Word to them, if you like.

Oh? Says who? Was it, by any chance, a fallible man who said that they were under the influence of God?

Or does God go to each Christian in turn and personally say "Hello, God here. You may remember me from such Commandments as "Thou shalt not kill" and "Only Eat Fish on Fridays". I'm here to tell you that every writer of the Bible was under my personal influence. Have a nice day now."
Thu 13/05/04 at 16:11
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Forest Fan wrote:
> Does following Buddha, make you a better person and if not, what is
> the aim of Buddhism, because after all Buddha was just a mere man,
> who was not in direct contact with God?

Read the guide for the eightfold path, how could it not make you a better person ?
Thu 13/05/04 at 13:47
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Light wrote:
> Ahh, trying to claim you're Jewish and Christian again eh? Make up
> your mind dear boy; are you Hebrew/Semetic, or are you Jewish? You
> can't be everything at once...

Semitic = Arabic/Jewish

Jewish = Hebrew

Hence, I can be called 'Semitic', 'Jewish' or 'Hebrew' in background.

>
> By the way; Jesus was horribly tortured and then executed. I suppose
> it's too much to hope for that you'll follow his example?

Not that I am particularly expecting to be martyred any time soon, there is a special blessing for it and a crown in Heaven.

"So then, none of you can be My disciple who does not give up all his own possessions." Luke 14:33
Thu 13/05/04 at 13:38
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Light wrote:
> Incidentally, all those biblical writers were mere men; funny how
> you're still avoiding addressing that point, isn't it my cowardly
> plaything?

All these men were under the influence of God, the Holy Spirit. The Bible is the Lord's Book, but the Word of God, came to the writer's, God dictated the Word to them, if you like.
Thu 13/05/04 at 13:36
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Pandaemonium wrote:
> Well Christ couldn't really celebrate Easter, with it being his
> crucifiction and ressurection and all now could
> he.......................

Yes, but He celebrated Passover, which represents the time when the lamb's blood was shed. Three and a half thousand years ago, it would be a little, literal lamb, but two thousand years ago, it was Jesus Christ. Easter is even mentioned in the Bible as being a Pagan festival.
Thu 13/05/04 at 12:50
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Forest Fan wrote:

>
> I celebrate Passover, not Easter, because Jesus did.

Ahh, trying to claim you're Jewish and Christian again eh? Make up your mind dear boy; are you Hebrew/Semetic, or are you Jewish? You can't be everything at once...

By the way; Jesus was horribly tortured and then executed. I suppose it's too much to hope for that you'll follow his example?

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