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I'll put this up while i'm in the right frame of mind to post it, your views are wlecome.

FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS
The Four Noble Truths represent the core of
the teachings of the Buddha, and are as follows:

The First Noble Truth
Unsatisfactoriness and suffering exist and
are universally experienced.

The Second Noble Truth
Desire and attachment are the causes of
unsatisfactoriness and suffering.

The Third Noble Truth
There is an end to
unsatisfactoriness and suffering.

The Fourth Noble Truth
The end can be attained by
journeying on the Noble Eightfold Path.




NOBLE EIGHTFOLD PATH
Right Understanding
Right Thinking
Right Speech
Right Action
Right Livelihood
Right Effort
Right Mindfulness
Right Concentration

1. Right View

See things as they truly are without delusions or distortions
for all things change. Develop wisdom by knowing how things
work, knowing oneself and others.

2. Right Intention

Wholehearted resolution and dedication to overcoming the
dislocation of self-centered craving through the development
of loving kindness, empathy and compassion.

3. Right Speech

Abstinence from lies and deceptions, backbiting, idle
babble and abusive speech. Cultivate honesty and
truthfulness; practice speech that is kind and benevolent.
Let your words reflect your desire to help, not harm others.

4.Right Action

Practice self-less conduct that reflects the highest
statement of the life you want to live. Express conduct
that is peaceful, honest and pure showing compassion
for all beings.

5. Right Livelihood

Avoidance of work that causes suffering to others or that
makes a decent, virtuous life impossible. Do not engage
in any occupation that opposes or distracts one from the
path. Love and serve our world through your work.

6. Right Effort

Seek to make the balance between the exertion of following
the spiritual path and a moderate life that is not over-zealous.
Work to develop more wholesome mind states, while gently
striving to go deeper and live more fully.

7. Right Mindfulness

Through constant vigilance in thought, speech and action
seek to rid the mind of self-centered thoughts that separate
and replace them with those that bind all beings together.
Be aware of your thoughts, emotions, body and world as they
exist in the present moment. Your thoughts create your reality.

8. Right Concentration

Through the application of meditation and mental discipline seek
to extinguish the last flame of grasping consciousness and develop
an emptiness that has room to embrace and love all things.

Strafio wrote:
> Because all the Bible said concerning other religions is to take no
> god before God (see what I did with the capitals?). Buddhism is
> nothing to do with rival god's, it just guides you to living a life
> like Jesus.

Another commandment is that you almost, must not have any 'gods' beside our Lord our God.

Forest Fan wrote:
> Any group/cult/people that make up their own rules.

You know, I provided you with a definition of religion, you agreed that you met 3 of the 4 definitions. Yet you're still saying you're not religious? Heh...way to prove me right when I said that all you do is mindlessly restate the same old discredited arguments over and over.

Gutless, wimpish coward.

You can take Buddhism as a religion or as a philosophy, but even if you take it as a religion, it still doesn't contradict Christianity.

Because all the Bible said concerning other religions is to take no god before God (see what I did with the capitals?). Buddhism is nothing to do with rival god's, it just guides you to living a life like Jesus.

Without the miracle powers and rising from the dead, that is! ;-)

Again - again, bloody again - it's just different words for the same things. You're obsessed with labels, FF.

Different words for the same things.
No-one cares.

Forest Fan wrote:
> As Strafio rightfully picks up on, I'm actually just trying to discuss
> Buddhism rationally. I answer so many questions from you lot, it's
> only fair that I hear about Buddhism.

Sorry, must have missed the rational Buddhism discussion under how you'd like to be labeled - Jew, Christian etc.
I'm sure, somewhere in posts such as:

Forest Fan wrote:
> Another example might be...
>
> Gentile + Islamic = Gentile Islamic
>
> Do you see what I mean?

There is a hidden point relating to Buddhism.
Yes, yes I'm sure.
Quite sure.

Now if they believed Jesus is God, they wouldn't define Christianity as a religon.

Forest Fan wrote:
> Any group/cult/people that make up their own rules.

No rules, only suggestions and they didnt make them up, they, from what i can see, have just taken the best parts of christianity and added some philosophy to them, i dont know for certain but i see no reason why i couldnt be christian and buddhist if i wanted to.

Forest Fan wrote:
> Any group/cult/people that make up their own rules.

(Pronunciation Key)re·li·gion

n.

a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship. God

The life or condition of a person in a religious order. Christianity

A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. Christ

A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. Christianity

Any group/cult/people that make up their own rules.

Flock wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> It is a religon.
>
> How do you define religion ?

Before he starts, I'd like to point out that he pays a tithe to his church. What could be any more organised than that?