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I'll put this up while i'm in the right frame of mind to post it, your views are wlecome.
FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS
The Four Noble Truths represent the core of
the teachings of the Buddha, and are as follows:
The First Noble Truth
Unsatisfactoriness and suffering exist and
are universally experienced.
The Second Noble Truth
Desire and attachment are the causes of
unsatisfactoriness and suffering.
The Third Noble Truth
There is an end to
unsatisfactoriness and suffering.
The Fourth Noble Truth
The end can be attained by
journeying on the Noble Eightfold Path.
NOBLE EIGHTFOLD PATH
Right Understanding
Right Thinking
Right Speech
Right Action
Right Livelihood
Right Effort
Right Mindfulness
Right Concentration
1. Right View
See things as they truly are without delusions or distortions
for all things change. Develop wisdom by knowing how things
work, knowing oneself and others.
2. Right Intention
Wholehearted resolution and dedication to overcoming the
dislocation of self-centered craving through the development
of loving kindness, empathy and compassion.
3. Right Speech
Abstinence from lies and deceptions, backbiting, idle
babble and abusive speech. Cultivate honesty and
truthfulness; practice speech that is kind and benevolent.
Let your words reflect your desire to help, not harm others.
4.Right Action
Practice self-less conduct that reflects the highest
statement of the life you want to live. Express conduct
that is peaceful, honest and pure showing compassion
for all beings.
5. Right Livelihood
Avoidance of work that causes suffering to others or that
makes a decent, virtuous life impossible. Do not engage
in any occupation that opposes or distracts one from the
path. Love and serve our world through your work.
6. Right Effort
Seek to make the balance between the exertion of following
the spiritual path and a moderate life that is not over-zealous.
Work to develop more wholesome mind states, while gently
striving to go deeper and live more fully.
7. Right Mindfulness
Through constant vigilance in thought, speech and action
seek to rid the mind of self-centered thoughts that separate
and replace them with those that bind all beings together.
Be aware of your thoughts, emotions, body and world as they
exist in the present moment. Your thoughts create your reality.
8. Right Concentration
Through the application of meditation and mental discipline seek
to extinguish the last flame of grasping consciousness and develop
an emptiness that has room to embrace and love all things.
FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS
The Four Noble Truths represent the core of
the teachings of the Buddha, and are as follows:
The First Noble Truth
Unsatisfactoriness and suffering exist and
are universally experienced.
The Second Noble Truth
Desire and attachment are the causes of
unsatisfactoriness and suffering.
The Third Noble Truth
There is an end to
unsatisfactoriness and suffering.
The Fourth Noble Truth
The end can be attained by
journeying on the Noble Eightfold Path.
NOBLE EIGHTFOLD PATH
Right Understanding
Right Thinking
Right Speech
Right Action
Right Livelihood
Right Effort
Right Mindfulness
Right Concentration
1. Right View
See things as they truly are without delusions or distortions
for all things change. Develop wisdom by knowing how things
work, knowing oneself and others.
2. Right Intention
Wholehearted resolution and dedication to overcoming the
dislocation of self-centered craving through the development
of loving kindness, empathy and compassion.
3. Right Speech
Abstinence from lies and deceptions, backbiting, idle
babble and abusive speech. Cultivate honesty and
truthfulness; practice speech that is kind and benevolent.
Let your words reflect your desire to help, not harm others.
4.Right Action
Practice self-less conduct that reflects the highest
statement of the life you want to live. Express conduct
that is peaceful, honest and pure showing compassion
for all beings.
5. Right Livelihood
Avoidance of work that causes suffering to others or that
makes a decent, virtuous life impossible. Do not engage
in any occupation that opposes or distracts one from the
path. Love and serve our world through your work.
6. Right Effort
Seek to make the balance between the exertion of following
the spiritual path and a moderate life that is not over-zealous.
Work to develop more wholesome mind states, while gently
striving to go deeper and live more fully.
7. Right Mindfulness
Through constant vigilance in thought, speech and action
seek to rid the mind of self-centered thoughts that separate
and replace them with those that bind all beings together.
Be aware of your thoughts, emotions, body and world as they
exist in the present moment. Your thoughts create your reality.
8. Right Concentration
Through the application of meditation and mental discipline seek
to extinguish the last flame of grasping consciousness and develop
an emptiness that has room to embrace and love all things.
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I'll have to read it again when my mind is fully operational, i'm not fully with it at the moment.
Hey Flock, you still there? :-)
Got a better answer for you now.
Not that it's necessarily the right one (not necessarily meaning it's wrong), just the way I see it. :-)
Anysway, with all the guidelines of the noble truths so far you can make judgements on right and wrong. What actions would be skillful and what would not be skillful. What is real and what isn't.
The thing is, it's one thing to know it and it's another to feel it...
Sort of... :-)
Say, take the dark.
Now since I switched the light of, I know that nothing is there, but the slightest sound or shadow can make me jumpy and nervous.
I KNOW that there's nothing there, but my instincts are still irrational and pesky I might add! :-D
It can go beyond phobia's too.
Prejudices and instinctive reactions to feel a way that you know you shouldn't are a real set back, because even though you can work out what you should do, sometimes irrational feelings can mislead you.
Good mindfulness will help you recognise when your thinking is messing up, and meditation helps you overcome it, train your instincts to act "skillfully".
By no means an easy task, and takes a heck of a lot of patience and what not, and even then I doubt perfection will ever be attained, but it's when Buddhism stops being philosphy and starts being a way of life.
I hope that's been sort of helpful. :-)
Got a better answer for you now.
Not that it's necessarily the right one (not necessarily meaning it's wrong), just the way I see it. :-)
Anysway, with all the guidelines of the noble truths so far you can make judgements on right and wrong. What actions would be skillful and what would not be skillful. What is real and what isn't.
The thing is, it's one thing to know it and it's another to feel it...
Sort of... :-)
Say, take the dark.
Now since I switched the light of, I know that nothing is there, but the slightest sound or shadow can make me jumpy and nervous.
I KNOW that there's nothing there, but my instincts are still irrational and pesky I might add! :-D
It can go beyond phobia's too.
Prejudices and instinctive reactions to feel a way that you know you shouldn't are a real set back, because even though you can work out what you should do, sometimes irrational feelings can mislead you.
Good mindfulness will help you recognise when your thinking is messing up, and meditation helps you overcome it, train your instincts to act "skillfully".
By no means an easy task, and takes a heck of a lot of patience and what not, and even then I doubt perfection will ever be attained, but it's when Buddhism stops being philosphy and starts being a way of life.
I hope that's been sort of helpful. :-)
Number 8. :-)
It's sort of finding a way of putting yourself in the right frame of mind to put all this theory into practice.
That's the best explanation I can do for now. :-)
I'll try again later. :-)
It's sort of finding a way of putting yourself in the right frame of mind to put all this theory into practice.
That's the best explanation I can do for now. :-)
I'll try again later. :-)
It's a shame this got turned into a battle between the religions, i'd like to move away from that, so can anyone properly explain to me number 8.
Forest Fan wrote:
> There is only one God and only one Jesus, however there any many
> imposters, people who want others to worship them, these are called
> types of Anti-Christs, because they are in place of Jesus.
Buddha never claimed to be Jesus. He never claimed anything about himself.
One of his main characteristics was to throw away his ego.
He'd just found enlightenment and wanted to share it.
And anysway, didn't Jesus say that "who is not against us is for us!"
> For me the Ecumenical Christian movement, is a purely Satanic one and
> will be the one that the final Anti-Christ uses, by combining all
> religions and beliefs together to worship himself.
Is Ecumenical Christian and combination of Buddhism and Christianity (I'm guessing through context!)? Or is it a combination of all religions.
But why would Satan make a man who's brought so many peoples lives to peace and inspired so many people to make good of their lives?
It sounds he has more in common with Jesus than the Devil.
I think this is leaning towards the "is the Bible the be all and end all of God", so I'll take this there.
But in this topic, imagine that Buddhism and Christianity don't conflict, would you have anything against Buddhism?
> There is only one God and only one Jesus, however there any many
> imposters, people who want others to worship them, these are called
> types of Anti-Christs, because they are in place of Jesus.
Buddha never claimed to be Jesus. He never claimed anything about himself.
One of his main characteristics was to throw away his ego.
He'd just found enlightenment and wanted to share it.
And anysway, didn't Jesus say that "who is not against us is for us!"
> For me the Ecumenical Christian movement, is a purely Satanic one and
> will be the one that the final Anti-Christ uses, by combining all
> religions and beliefs together to worship himself.
Is Ecumenical Christian and combination of Buddhism and Christianity (I'm guessing through context!)? Or is it a combination of all religions.
But why would Satan make a man who's brought so many peoples lives to peace and inspired so many people to make good of their lives?
It sounds he has more in common with Jesus than the Devil.
I think this is leaning towards the "is the Bible the be all and end all of God", so I'll take this there.
But in this topic, imagine that Buddhism and Christianity don't conflict, would you have anything against Buddhism?
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Bloody hell, you’re a zealot aren't you?
That's a new one. :D
> Bloody hell, you’re a zealot aren't you?
That's a new one. :D
Forest Fan wrote:
> For me the Ecumenical Christian movement, is a purely Satanic one and
> will be the one that the final Anti-Christ uses, by combining all
> religions and beliefs together to worship himself.
Bloody hell, you’re a zealot aren't you?
> For me the Ecumenical Christian movement, is a purely Satanic one and
> will be the one that the final Anti-Christ uses, by combining all
> religions and beliefs together to worship himself.
Bloody hell, you’re a zealot aren't you?
Strafio wrote:
> Ok. :-)
>
> Even then, Buddhism involves no gods.
There is only one God and only one Jesus, however there any many imposters, people who want others to worship them, these are called types of Anti-Christs, because they are in place of Jesus.
> But if you are truly convinced that your faith is true than you'd
> have nothing to worry about there. :-)
For me the Ecumenical Christian movement, is a purely Satanic one and will be the one that the final Anti-Christ uses, by combining all religions and beliefs together to worship himself.
> Ok. :-)
>
> Even then, Buddhism involves no gods.
There is only one God and only one Jesus, however there any many imposters, people who want others to worship them, these are called types of Anti-Christs, because they are in place of Jesus.
> But if you are truly convinced that your faith is true than you'd
> have nothing to worry about there. :-)
For me the Ecumenical Christian movement, is a purely Satanic one and will be the one that the final Anti-Christ uses, by combining all religions and beliefs together to worship himself.
Strafio wrote:
> But if you are truly convinced that your faith is true than you'd
> have nothing to worry about there. :-)
...and there, you've hit the nail on the head. Gump's insecurity stretches even to the faith that he's created in order to make himself feel special it would seem.
> But if you are truly convinced that your faith is true than you'd
> have nothing to worry about there. :-)
...and there, you've hit the nail on the head. Gump's insecurity stretches even to the faith that he's created in order to make himself feel special it would seem.
Ok. :-)
Even then, Buddhism involves no gods.
Buddha is like a respected teacher.
Yes, some Buddhists worship him in a religious way, but you don't have to do that. You can call that a "catholic version of the Buddhist religion" if you like! ;-)
What it's really about is about becoming in touch with yourself, clearing your mind, and fullfilling your potential as a person, however that may be.
The morals and ideals you'd be guided with are identical to the ones that Jesus showed people, putting a Jewish slant on them so his listeners could relate and understand them better.
It would only strengthen your Christian faith, and if it did cause you to lose faith then it would be because you'll seen new light.
But if you are truly convinced that your faith is true than you'd have nothing to worry about there. :-)
Even then, Buddhism involves no gods.
Buddha is like a respected teacher.
Yes, some Buddhists worship him in a religious way, but you don't have to do that. You can call that a "catholic version of the Buddhist religion" if you like! ;-)
What it's really about is about becoming in touch with yourself, clearing your mind, and fullfilling your potential as a person, however that may be.
The morals and ideals you'd be guided with are identical to the ones that Jesus showed people, putting a Jewish slant on them so his listeners could relate and understand them better.
It would only strengthen your Christian faith, and if it did cause you to lose faith then it would be because you'll seen new light.
But if you are truly convinced that your faith is true than you'd have nothing to worry about there. :-)
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