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Who's the best wrestler?
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†hë_Çøñg_Mðñ wrote:
> Supersaiyan wrote:
> Supersaiyan wrote:
> Sean Michaels
>
> Edit: SHAWN
>
> I've never understood the appeal of Shawn Michaels. Sure he's a good
> all-ropunder who can brawl a bit, fly a bit and wrestler a bit. He's
> even pretty good on the mic and carries himself well. But in my
> personal opinion he's never been good enough at implementing
> psyhology into a match to be worth of the reverie he recieves.
> Although he hides this well by bumping like a mad-man the end result
> was a stunted career, also contributing to this was Vince trying to
> hide his weakness in ring psychology by booking him in an endless
> slew of gimmick matches.
Shawn Michaels is a legend, his one of the best wrestler of all time
> Supersaiyan wrote:
> Supersaiyan wrote:
> Sean Michaels
>
> Edit: SHAWN
>
> I've never understood the appeal of Shawn Michaels. Sure he's a good
> all-ropunder who can brawl a bit, fly a bit and wrestler a bit. He's
> even pretty good on the mic and carries himself well. But in my
> personal opinion he's never been good enough at implementing
> psyhology into a match to be worth of the reverie he recieves.
> Although he hides this well by bumping like a mad-man the end result
> was a stunted career, also contributing to this was Vince trying to
> hide his weakness in ring psychology by booking him in an endless
> slew of gimmick matches.
Shawn Michaels is a legend, his one of the best wrestler of all time
Mouldy Cheese wrote:
> Benoit. Forever.
I agree with the Mouldy one.
> Benoit. Forever.
I agree with the Mouldy one.
Benoit. Forever.
Supersaiyan wrote:
> Supersaiyan wrote:
> Sean Michaels
>
> Edit: SHAWN
I've never understood the appeal of Shawn Michaels. Sure he's a good all-ropunder who can brawl a bit, fly a bit and wrestler a bit. He's even pretty good on the mic and carries himself well. But in my personal opinion he's never been good enough at implementing psyhology into a match to be worth of the reverie he recieves. Although he hides this well by bumping like a mad-man the end result was a stunted career, also contributing to this was Vince trying to hide his weakness in ring psychology by booking him in an endless slew of gimmick matches.
> Supersaiyan wrote:
> Sean Michaels
>
> Edit: SHAWN
I've never understood the appeal of Shawn Michaels. Sure he's a good all-ropunder who can brawl a bit, fly a bit and wrestler a bit. He's even pretty good on the mic and carries himself well. But in my personal opinion he's never been good enough at implementing psyhology into a match to be worth of the reverie he recieves. Although he hides this well by bumping like a mad-man the end result was a stunted career, also contributing to this was Vince trying to hide his weakness in ring psychology by booking him in an endless slew of gimmick matches.
Supersaiyan wrote:
> Sean Michaels
Edit: SHAWN
> Sean Michaels
Edit: SHAWN
Sean Michaels
Ant wrote:
> Whoa, calm down. I never said he was the best wrestler in the WWE and
> I never judged him compared to whatever indy wrestlers are out there
> because I don't really know much about the independant scence. Yeah
> I've watched RoH and that on TWC, and it's a load of wrestlers flying
> around a ring for a while.
Umm, I believe when judging a federation you should look at their world champion. Samoa Joe for ROH doesn't exactly do much flying around and his current feud is with CM Punk who is probably the best match psychologist outside of the WWE, but then he should be as he learned from the best, Raven.
>
> But I think Orton has the all round qualities to become a huge star
> for the WWE...not to say that he isn't already, considering he's over
> with most of the fans.
>
I don't and I'm willing to bet almost anything that Orton will never be world champ and will fade progressively down the card. Why? Because he is in the same position Val Venis was in 5 years ago.
> And I got my Legend Killer T-Shirt today. :P
> Whoa, calm down. I never said he was the best wrestler in the WWE and
> I never judged him compared to whatever indy wrestlers are out there
> because I don't really know much about the independant scence. Yeah
> I've watched RoH and that on TWC, and it's a load of wrestlers flying
> around a ring for a while.
Umm, I believe when judging a federation you should look at their world champion. Samoa Joe for ROH doesn't exactly do much flying around and his current feud is with CM Punk who is probably the best match psychologist outside of the WWE, but then he should be as he learned from the best, Raven.
>
> But I think Orton has the all round qualities to become a huge star
> for the WWE...not to say that he isn't already, considering he's over
> with most of the fans.
>
I don't and I'm willing to bet almost anything that Orton will never be world champ and will fade progressively down the card. Why? Because he is in the same position Val Venis was in 5 years ago.
> And I got my Legend Killer T-Shirt today. :P
Goldberg the greatest
Cris Benoit todays best
Cris Benoit todays best
In my opinion, if Orton wants to stick around at the top, he will have to learn every time he steps into the ring with the talented guys on the roster (Benoit, Guerrero, Jericho etc.), if he doesn't, the fans are just going to get sick of him.
Cena is heading the same way. He started to improve when he was facing Kurt Angle and he actually got a decent match out of Taker. Now, he only seems to have 5 moves and is heading backwards.
Cena is heading the same way. He started to improve when he was facing Kurt Angle and he actually got a decent match out of Taker. Now, he only seems to have 5 moves and is heading backwards.
Ant wrote:
> I've watched RoH and that on TWC, and it's a load of wrestlers flying
> around a ring for a while.
Sorry? Flying about in a ring for a while? RoH does have spotfests, yes, but it's built on workrate and fundamentally good wrestling, with psychology at the centre point. Sure, it doesn't work every time, but to dismiss it as 'flying around in a ring for a while' is ridiculous - you just haven't been paying attention. I can understand it may not be exactly what you want, but that description of yours is flawed.
> But I think Orton has the all round qualities to become a huge star
> for the WWE...not to say that he isn't already, considering he's over
> with most of the fans.
Yes, he probably will become a big star, but that doesn't mean he's a good wrestler at all, necessarily. Look at the guff WWE and WCW have pushed to the moon in the past (Kevin Nash springs to mind).
> I've watched RoH and that on TWC, and it's a load of wrestlers flying
> around a ring for a while.
Sorry? Flying about in a ring for a while? RoH does have spotfests, yes, but it's built on workrate and fundamentally good wrestling, with psychology at the centre point. Sure, it doesn't work every time, but to dismiss it as 'flying around in a ring for a while' is ridiculous - you just haven't been paying attention. I can understand it may not be exactly what you want, but that description of yours is flawed.
> But I think Orton has the all round qualities to become a huge star
> for the WWE...not to say that he isn't already, considering he's over
> with most of the fans.
Yes, he probably will become a big star, but that doesn't mean he's a good wrestler at all, necessarily. Look at the guff WWE and WCW have pushed to the moon in the past (Kevin Nash springs to mind).
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