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So on one hand it advocates revenge to be the answer to wrong doing, and on the other says not to be baited by such aggressive behaviour?
> Bane Wrote:
> "The death sentence is no different from murder.
> two wrongs don't make a right."
>
> I agree on the 2 wrongs part. But I believe that the death sentance
> is not murder. Becuase the murderer etc is getting punished. many
> relgious people agree 23 becuase in the bible it says "An eye
> fro an eye and a tooth for a tooth" meaing that whatver you do,
> say kill someone, you get it doen back to you, ie: Get killed.
The Bible also teaches forgiveness. Funny how that little message gets forgotten, isn't it?
> So you’re saying that a murderer has the right to take someone’s life
> and then has the right to live his life! Totally wrong. NO matter how
> much counselling they have it does not change the fact they have
> ended someone’s life.
And no matter how harsly you punish them, you'll never bring that person back to life either. Not all murders are calculated cold-blooded killings.
If someone kills, does that mean they should be punished for the rest of their life?
Revenge is essentially petty. On a larger scale, it's just easier to justify, that's all. I'm not saying forgive and forget, but the justice system shouldn't be based on the desire of victims of crime to see people suffer.
The deatgh sentance is hard subject to discuss, perhaps teh hardest, as there are many possible different opinions and beliefs
> So you’re saying that a murderer has the right to take someone’s life
> and then has the right to live his life! Totally wrong. NO matter how
> much counselling they have it does not change the fact they have
> ended someone’s life.
No. I'm saying that I no longer believe a death penalty would be any deterrant to the vast majority of criminals. Consideration has to be given to each case indivdually depending on circumstances.
Say:
A man kills another man, on purpose, in a fight.
A woman kills her husband, who hits her, but she purposely planned and comitted his murder.
With a death penalty both could fry/die.
Bet you anything @ng3l that there'd be more people wanting the woman to be spared than the man, and that's because it's impossible to seperate emotions from how people view situations. It's remarkably easy to want the death penalty for people, but not so easy when you find out about the details of actual cases. In addition our legal system often seems to have trouble getting the right person in some cases, say all you want that "we'd always be sure they were guilty" but the jury was sure people were guilty in every miscarriage of justice there has been.
For crimes like Child Molesters/Pedophiles such a harsh penalty would do more harm than good. Say, as some seem to want, you make serial child molesters/pedophiles/abusers face the death penalty. Now suppose that one of these people takes a child, or is abusing one in secret. Do they;
a) release the child/let the child live, with the risk of the death penalty
b) kill them and hide the body ensuring there chance of capture is limited at best.
Yes, many do kill children already, but bring in the death penalty and you'll see it rocket.
In addition to all this I feel it's wrong to write off every single person who has taken a life, it's not always going to be someone you don't want in society. After all, we don't keep soldiers locked up do we ? Soldiers are not murderers (though some would probably debate that) but they certainly takes lives of others, and when necessary they receive help for their experiences.
I think, now, that the better solution to crime is to root out the causes of it where possible - give people a reason not to commit it rather than just building bigger prisons.
> I agree
Me too
And wardens shouldn't be needed. Just create a prison controlled by computers. And Magnets. With daily floggings.