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Thu 15/04/04 at 10:20
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Got the DVD the other day and am saving the new 30 mins longer "special edition" for the weekend. However the featurettes on the (troubled) making of the film have been a revalation. They are extremely candid and even go so far as to criticise things like the special effects in the finished version of the film and point out continuity errors (Golic's accent changes from "Charles Manson" to scally scouser in the space of one scene.

A word of caution though; the featurettes are split into pre-production, production and post-production and when you reach the second production featurette (if you watch them in order) they start talking (Terry Rawlings et al who edited Alien and Alien 3) about what cuts they had to make; which appear in the special edition.

Oh and did you know that skin head Sigourney was wearing a $14,000 wig for the final scenes?
Fri 16/04/04 at 14:10
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Pandaemonium wrote:
> Mr Snuggly wrote:
> I shall watch Alien Resurrection tomorrow. Hopefully, it'll be as
> good as I remember it.
>
> It's cool up until the appearance of the cross breed IMHO. Than it
> sucks. Big time.

Just finished watching it, and yes - it's great up until the weird white alien crossbreed at the end. It just looks rubbish. But I like the way it dies. Ron Perlman owns this movie.

Ripley: "Who do I have to f*** to get off this boat?"
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Fri 16/04/04 at 13:57
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The sagacious one wrote:
> ... wasn't Ernest Bogine (co-pilot of Airwolf) in it too?
*****

Yes, I do believe he was.
Fri 16/04/04 at 12:17
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Mr Snuggly wrote:
> I shall watch Alien Resurrection tomorrow. Hopefully, it'll be as
> good as I remember it.

It's cool up until the appearance of the cross breed IMHO. Than it sucks. Big time.
Fri 16/04/04 at 12:15
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Mr Snuggly wrote:

>And the CGI underwater aliens too. In fact, that whole bit was pinched
>from the Poseidon Adventure wasn't it?

I can't seem to remember any Aliens in the Poseidon Adventure. I remember some fat lass who died after holding her breath gave her a heart attack and wasn't Ernest Bogine (co-pilot of Airwolf) in it too? Or am I thinking of Savalas (Kojak) or am I thinking of the Dirty Dozen or both?
Fri 16/04/04 at 00:16
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I shall watch Alien Resurrection tomorrow. Hopefully, it'll be as good as I remember it. Cool ensemble cast, Ron Perlman, little smart-talking dwarf and Winona Ryder as a pikey android, nicking alien foetuses from labs, claiming they're for a 'role'. But that alien was a bit crud, wasn't it? The big white one? And the CGI underwater aliens too. In fact, that whole bit was pinched from the Poseidon Adventure wasn't it?

They're remaking the Poseidon Adventure, don't you know. Looking forward to that.
Thu 15/04/04 at 13:49
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Alien 3 always bored me. Now, seeing the special edition (got myself the boxset for Christmas since nobody loves me enough to buy it for me) I realise it's actually quite decent. It fills in the blanks.

The reason the sound is so awful, Snuggly, is because they're putting in deleted scenes. They can't do any ADR since it's a waste of time getting all the actors back over a decade after the film was finished just to fix up the DVD, so they're using what sound they have, which in some cases is poor quality.

Apparantly the documentary is basically a recut version of one released ages ago (possibly the one on the original Alien boxset which has been out for years) We don't get to see the verbal arguments between Fincher and the producers and how bad it really got at some points, which is a shame.

And the dog alien makes me laugh. You HAVE to see the test footage they did of using a real dog (Fincher's idea) in an alien suit. Instead of pounding down a corridor it just sort of trots like a dog bringing the morning paper... classic. Oh, and they use an ox in the special edition, a dead one. Which to me is crap, since seeing a live dog explode is a lot more disturbing than seeing a dead, rotting ox have its ribcage broken from the inside. And if the ox is dead, how is the alien still alive? Everyone always says they'd rather die than have an alien in them...
Thu 15/04/04 at 12:41
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double posts

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Thu 15/04/04 at 12:41
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Yeah, they milked it with Alien 3 no doubt.

And the alien looked like a dog because it was a uh, dog alien or something. Didin't you ever play Alien Trilogy? :P
Thu 15/04/04 at 12:37
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I watched it for the first time the other day, and it was a thorough waste of time. Absolute stinker, it's hard to believe that it's David Fincher behind the camera (though I've read about the crap he went through trying to make it). The DVD has an atrocious sound mix too, when some characters speak there's an incessant hissing noise but when they're quiet, it goes away. Truly awful, and the alien looks like a dog. Compared to Aliens, which I watched a few hours before, it's absolute gash.

Might have to watch the extras now though.
Thu 15/04/04 at 12:25
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