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(Not directed at forest fan specifically, but I've been thinking about religion a lot recently due to the trolls influence on these forums, apologies in advance for creating another thread of garbage, but hey, the idea below tickled me and kept me amused for a few minutes.)
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Ok, “god” created man in his own image, and is commonly assumed to be male. If that is so, answer me these following questions.
Is there a female “god” knocking around somewhere? Did he create a female “god” counterpart? Canhe create a female “god” counterpart? Is this against the rules as there can only be one true “god” according to the Christian faith?
If there is only one “god” and he’s male and equipped with a fully functional set of genitals (ohhh, naughty, talking about “gods” uglies) and therefore, by proxy, a sex drive, I can fully understand why he / it allows so much pain and suffering in the word.
He / it could get a bit tetchy after “self loving” for a couple of thousand millennia………………………
> I actually literally do believe Hell is in the centre of the Earth,
> which science tells us is EXTREMELY hot, hotter than the Sun. I also
> believe Heaven is somewhere, many millions of miles in the sky, but
> too far for humans to reach. Heaven will descend down, we are told.
And that's exactly the problem I have. Its just utter stupidity. (cue laughable "hell" link)
Anyway, I thought you didn't have much truck with science? Oh, hold on, it's a part of sciences that *actually fits* with your religions ideas.
Ahhhhhh. Like you pick and choose parts of the bible to suit you.
> Heaven is something we cannot picture it is literally so ut of this world..
Thinking regarding heaven and hell is based on our physicality, and therefore HAS to have a physical location.
I have major problems with this idea.
Hell - pain, suffering, torture, fire, underground in a single planet in the universe etc etc
Heaven - eternal paradise "up there".
What if heaven is simply being one with the universe and "god" if it exists, and hell is not feeling the presence of said "god" (and the "feeling" is nothing which we can currently comprehend, as it will be fully spiritual)?
[edit] I'm sitting on the fence here BTW. I have my own beliefs.
> Interesting story Ginge! Is that what you believe happened?
Pretty much!
Heaven is something we cannot picture it is literally so ut of this world..
It is said that we enter heaven like children! Ya know so young, pure, eyes open and fascinated!
We cannot comprehend what hell or heaven would be like really. We can take shots but deep down I know that Satan would not be able to enter it - because it is of pure nature, holiness and it says NO pain or trouble is in heaven. It is literally a peaceful paradise for eternity...
So I dont see howo that can be kept when some ugly mug like the devil knocks on heavens door!
> Lindgren wrote:
> What makes religious folk so sure that Satan hasn't penetrated
> heaven?
> If he could do it on Earth......
>
> Don't suppose anyone wants to have a crack at an explanation on this?
> It seems to have been completely ignored so far.
Satan hasn't penetratred Heaven, he has this world, but not Heaven. Ultimately Satan will be cast into the Lake of Fire with the Anti-Christ and the False Prophet for a 1000 year head start on the punishment.
> Interesting story Ginge! Is that what you believe happened?
That is pretty much how it happened. :)
>
> What 'good point'?
If you failed to see my point then you are truly blind.
> Edgy wrote:
> Lindgren, I'm afraid good points like your own never get answered
> (with a decent answer) at all because Forest Fan ignores them.
>
> What 'good point'?
I rest my case.
> Lindgren wrote:
> What makes religious folk so sure that Satan hasn't penetrated
> heaven?
> If he could do it on Earth......
>
> Don't suppose anyone wants to have a crack at an explanation on this?
> It seems to have been completely ignored so far.
Right hun, I am no pastor or expert but what I think and remember is - The devil was an angel in heaven before us lot arrived. He decided to get all big headed and tried to over throw God. He thought he could be better but wasnt at all as God is all powerful... So after corrupting half or so of the angels to over throw the Lord and the Holiness of heaven the Lord b***h slapped The devil (naughty angel) into hell... with his dodgy followers... so
The devil was once an angel of holiness gone wrong - back then he was allowed into heaven. He was ok jack - but now he has twisted and corrupted alot of things and he is .. well evil! So he wont be allowed into heaven as it is a spiritual place of peace and love of Jesus - he does not aquire any of these things.
Help? soz x