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Fri 26/03/04 at 13:35
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In our area (Northampton), we have recently been given two Recycling Bins. Well, they're not bins exactly - more like plastic storage containers with no lids and "Recycled Waste" stamped on the sides.

One is green. This is for paper and card etc. This includes... Newspapers, magazines, brochures, junk mail, telephone directories, food boxes, sheet & corrugated cardboard, computer and photocopy paper.

...but not

Window envelopes, wax or foil lined containers (such as fruit juice containers/milk cartons), tin foil, hard backed books (why not?) and polystyrene.


The other is blue. This is for...

Soft drinks bottles, plastic milk bottles, shampoo/detergent bottles, cans for food/drink/pet food, aerosol cans, tin foil and aluminium food trays...

...but not...

Margarine tubs, ice cream tubs, yoghurt pots, carrier bags, polystyrene trays or egg boxes, foil lined plastic (e.g. crisp packets), plant pots, paint containers, DIY and garden chemical containers, and engine oil containers.


Then we have the standard 'black bag' for all other household waste that can't go in the green or blue boxes.

So, why can the green take all paper and card, but not hard-back books? Why can the blue take foil, but not foil crisp packets, and take plastic bottles but not margarine tubs?

Anyway, that is just the start of the madness.

These are supposed to be left at the kerbside for 7:30 in the mornings of pre-determined days, for collection.

Now this is just my own opinion and speculation, but I think most will agree with me...

1. Those that are not working are likely to think, "I'm not getting up early just to put them out. I'll put them out the night before."

2. Those that are working are likely to think, "I don't have time in the mornings for that. I'll put them out the night before."

A bin full of paper with no lid, left out on a windy night?

Worse still, we live on a council estate with lots of bored, moronic youngsters. If several hundred people put out open 'bins' full of tins, paper and other rubbish the night before, with bored teens roaming around... what do you think is going to happen?

But it gets even more stupid.

On the local radio yesterday, a woman phoned in to relate a story about the stupidity (and futility) of the recycling plan.

She had phoned the council to say that she and her husband have a lot of paper to throw out every week, and that she had been recycling it herself. Could she carry on as usual? The council said, "No, you must use the bins provided."

So she told them that they have far too much paper each week to fit in the bin, could she have another? The council asked how big her family was, and when she said there was just her and her husband, they said, "No, your family isn't large enough. If you had more people at your address, you would qualify for a second bin, but you don't... sorry!"

She then asked, "Well, you've told me I can't recycle myself and I can't have another bin. What do I do with the paper that won't fit in the bin I have?"

Ready for the punchline?

The council told her, "Just put it in a black sack and put it out with the normal rubbish."

Ba boom... tssshhhhhhh!

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... the stupidity of councils, and the futility of recycling schemes.

I'm all for recycling, but until they come up with a sensible way of doing things (and maybe lobotomise council estate youths), I really don't see the point.
Sat 27/03/04 at 13:03
Regular
"Sure.Fine.Whatever."
Posts: 9,629
We've had this here for nearly 4 years now, and it works pretty well, although I'm not sure why some things can't be put in the boxes. Someone once said to me it's because of chemicals in certain foods/plastics that can't be put through recycling, might have something to do with it. And if you don't want to get up at 7:30 to put the bin out, do it the night before! That's what I do when I don't have to be up that early.
Sat 27/03/04 at 12:56
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Posts: 8,220
Did anyone see that thing on the news about imposing fines for people who don't recycle?

It was only a last-resort type measure, a £1000 fine, but it seemed like quite a good idea to me really.
That's the sort of thing you can justify fining for (enforce recycling for the public benefit), so long as it doesn't turn into a stealth tax.
Fri 26/03/04 at 13:44
Regular
"Omnipresent"
Posts: 1,646
If the recycling plant is on overload, excess get's chucked in with the rubbsih. That happened where I live. Labotomising teens? A bit harsh, but I'm for it.
Fri 26/03/04 at 13:41
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"Omnipresent"
Posts: 1,646
OK
Fri 26/03/04 at 13:40
"High polygon count"
Posts: 15,624
If you read it all, you'll understand it much better.
Fri 26/03/04 at 13:38
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"Omnipresent"
Posts: 1,646
Just read the beginning. That was enough;)
Fri 26/03/04 at 13:37
"High polygon count"
Posts: 15,624
Now I know you didn't read it all that quickly!

No, not bored. These things just wind me up.
Fri 26/03/04 at 13:36
Regular
"Omnipresent"
Posts: 1,646
bored, mr wookie?
Fri 26/03/04 at 13:35
"High polygon count"
Posts: 15,624
In our area (Northampton), we have recently been given two Recycling Bins. Well, they're not bins exactly - more like plastic storage containers with no lids and "Recycled Waste" stamped on the sides.

One is green. This is for paper and card etc. This includes... Newspapers, magazines, brochures, junk mail, telephone directories, food boxes, sheet & corrugated cardboard, computer and photocopy paper.

...but not

Window envelopes, wax or foil lined containers (such as fruit juice containers/milk cartons), tin foil, hard backed books (why not?) and polystyrene.


The other is blue. This is for...

Soft drinks bottles, plastic milk bottles, shampoo/detergent bottles, cans for food/drink/pet food, aerosol cans, tin foil and aluminium food trays...

...but not...

Margarine tubs, ice cream tubs, yoghurt pots, carrier bags, polystyrene trays or egg boxes, foil lined plastic (e.g. crisp packets), plant pots, paint containers, DIY and garden chemical containers, and engine oil containers.


Then we have the standard 'black bag' for all other household waste that can't go in the green or blue boxes.

So, why can the green take all paper and card, but not hard-back books? Why can the blue take foil, but not foil crisp packets, and take plastic bottles but not margarine tubs?

Anyway, that is just the start of the madness.

These are supposed to be left at the kerbside for 7:30 in the mornings of pre-determined days, for collection.

Now this is just my own opinion and speculation, but I think most will agree with me...

1. Those that are not working are likely to think, "I'm not getting up early just to put them out. I'll put them out the night before."

2. Those that are working are likely to think, "I don't have time in the mornings for that. I'll put them out the night before."

A bin full of paper with no lid, left out on a windy night?

Worse still, we live on a council estate with lots of bored, moronic youngsters. If several hundred people put out open 'bins' full of tins, paper and other rubbish the night before, with bored teens roaming around... what do you think is going to happen?

But it gets even more stupid.

On the local radio yesterday, a woman phoned in to relate a story about the stupidity (and futility) of the recycling plan.

She had phoned the council to say that she and her husband have a lot of paper to throw out every week, and that she had been recycling it herself. Could she carry on as usual? The council said, "No, you must use the bins provided."

So she told them that they have far too much paper each week to fit in the bin, could she have another? The council asked how big her family was, and when she said there was just her and her husband, they said, "No, your family isn't large enough. If you had more people at your address, you would qualify for a second bin, but you don't... sorry!"

She then asked, "Well, you've told me I can't recycle myself and I can't have another bin. What do I do with the paper that won't fit in the bin I have?"

Ready for the punchline?

The council told her, "Just put it in a black sack and put it out with the normal rubbish."

Ba boom... tssshhhhhhh!

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... the stupidity of councils, and the futility of recycling schemes.

I'm all for recycling, but until they come up with a sensible way of doing things (and maybe lobotomise council estate youths), I really don't see the point.

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