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Fri 12/03/04 at 11:17
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There's no denying that the world is going to pot. Wars, diseases, famines, genocides - all this is happening on a daily basis, and nothing ever seems to get resolved. It mostly occurs through diplomatic and political incompetence, a basic failure on society that the poor and weak get swept under the carpet. We are lucky in this country that our diplomatic ties lies in roughly the right direction - America. For all our complaining about the way the American government conducts itself, we still need the links with them to keep our own sort-of-peace and happiness. Just look at Iraq, and Syria - embargos galore, just to keep them (and their assets) in check.

If we were to think purely in a Biblical sense, it would probably seem that any vague prophesising would be coming true. Not just the state of nations, but of the geological rumblings too. Earthquakes wipe out hundreds, even thousands of people in South Asia, and the West Coast of America has been overdue a big one for years now. We're also warned, almost annually now, of an asteroid collision wiping us out. This can probably all be extracted and interpreted from the Bible and other religious texts, but that doesn't mean that it has any real-life significance. Civilisations have risen and then vanished numeruous times through history. Entire South American empires (who did not have the Bible, but still worshipped Gods), have just simply ceased to exist, self-destructing under an element of their society that we have yet to figure out. Our best guesses are either greed, or some natural disaster. Even the Dinosaurs (best of all the animals) died out, and the only reason we have any evidence of their existance is because we find their bones!

Today's society definitely has greed. Our whole work ethic revolves around making as much money as we can, so that we can lead more comfortable lives. While everyone has the right to earn money, and some are rewarded in proportion to the amount of effort they put into their jobs, there are always people who are in positions of authority that do not deserve to be there. Take Paris Hilton for example. Touted around trashy "lad's mag's" as a sexy babe, but that's all she is. No brains, no intellect - just a stick figure that doesn't mind flaunting her child-like body. Now it may seem unfair to single out one person (society has always had it's darlings and "It" people), but if you take the reasons she is a household name and the amount of people who aspire to her ideals, and then think about another celebrity...hmmm, let's say Arnold Schwarznegger...then you start to see how dangerous a mix of money, status and authority can be.

Who would ever have thought that the star of such films as Conan The Barbarian, Red Sonja (although it could be argued that he was the sidekick), and The Terminator, would ever be in charge of such a large economy as California!? It's just crazy. The only thing stopping him getting to the White House, and being in charge of the mightiest superpower on Earth is that he wasn't born in the country. If that changes, then I fear for us all. It's blatantly obvious that the only reason he got anywhere in politics is because of who he is. Not what he stands for, or his political background, or academic/military prowess. He had the money and the following to take control. It doesn't matter if there is a better man for the job, when you could have Mr Frosty as your Governor. He used his millions to hire a crack team of publicists and PR people, used his Kennedy connections to sway votes, and now he's in charge.

That's just America, though - it's a f**ked up country anyway.

But could that happen over here? An increasingly "dumbed-down" nation, crime is rife, obesity is becoming commonplace - almost like we're becoming America #2. We like to think that we wouldn't be so stupid as to vote in a former body-builder to rule us all, but at the end of the day, it's a choice between Clown Number One, or Clown Number Two. No changes made in the 4 short years of power any Government has is enough to make a difference, it's all an image contest to make it look like you're capable of running a country. Craig from Big Brother looks quite handy, and he can build a shed. Jade from Big Brother has a big gob and a pea for a brain, but millions of people watch her on TV, slack-jawed, taking it all in because they've got nothing better to do with their lives. I honestly don't think it will be too long before we have someone like that in a position of authority. Then we truly are in for it.

And of course, all this has been predicted by the Bible. Or has it? If it had, and there was any proof that previous predictions had come true (outside the sphere of vague uncertainty that all predictions have had thus far), then we certainly wouldn't be sitting on our arsses typing in chat forums. Unless it was a chat forum about religious predictions coming true. I'm sure our societies and civilisations will come to a premature and bloody demise, but I don't think it has any biblical connotations, it's just what happens in times of unrest. But the real question that's on everyone's minds is: How long before you're b*ggered over the bonnet of your own burning car?
Sat 13/03/04 at 08:57
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"RIP: Brian Clough"
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Black Glove wrote:
> All great and mighty empires/civilisations do seem to eventually fall,
> self-destruct or dilute, but America is still in its infancy; it's
> still on-the-up. I'd say there's a long way to go before the end
> days
of the current power structure... unless of course an
> astroid of doom be a-comin'.

There are going to be astroids hitting the earth during the great tribulation.
Sat 13/03/04 at 08:46
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Posts: 3,522
All great and mighty empires/civilisations do seem to eventually fall, self-destruct or dilute, but America is still in its infancy; it's still on-the-up. I'd say there's a long way to go before the end days of the current power structure... unless of course an astroid of doom be a-comin'.
Fri 12/03/04 at 13:40
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"Gundammmmm!"
Posts: 2,339
Meh, compared to fifty or a hundred years ago this is nothing.
Fri 12/03/04 at 13:13
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Posts: 23,089
Forest Fan wrote:
> If you want to know the end times, read Revelation.
--------

So Smith is ego and we co-exist with the machines? Cool
Fri 12/03/04 at 12:34
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"RIP: Brian Clough"
Posts: 10,491
monkey_man wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> monkey_man wrote:
> If it has the line: "And lo, Arnie served his second term
> before
> nuking the Ruskies to hell", then I'm sold!
>
> By the way, there's no need to boost your word count so blantantly
> by
> quoting all the time - people have been banned for that before!
>
> Not really my style.
>
> Ha! You're in a jokey mood today!

Maybe I am.
Fri 12/03/04 at 12:33
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"Pouch Ape"
Posts: 14,499
Forest Fan wrote:
> monkey_man wrote:
> If it has the line: "And lo, Arnie served his second term
> before
> nuking the Ruskies to hell", then I'm sold!
>
> By the way, there's no need to boost your word count so blantantly
> by
> quoting all the time - people have been banned for that before!
>
> Not really my style.

Ha! You're in a jokey mood today!
Fri 12/03/04 at 12:31
Regular
"RIP: Brian Clough"
Posts: 10,491
monkey_man wrote:
> If it has the line: "And lo, Arnie served his second term before
> nuking the Ruskies to hell", then I'm sold!
>
> By the way, there's no need to boost your word count so blantantly by
> quoting all the time - people have been banned for that before!

Not really my style.
Fri 12/03/04 at 12:30
Regular
"Pouch Ape"
Posts: 14,499
If it has the line: "And lo, Arnie served his second term before nuking the Ruskies to hell", then I'm sold!

By the way, there's no need to boost your word count so blantantly by quoting all the time - people have been banned for that before!
Fri 12/03/04 at 12:27
Regular
"RIP: Brian Clough"
Posts: 10,491
monkey_man wrote:
> There's no denying that the world is going to pot. Wars, diseases,
> famines, genocides - all this is happening on a daily basis, and
> nothing ever seems to get resolved. It mostly occurs through
> diplomatic and political incompetence, a basic failure on society
> that the poor and weak get swept under the carpet. We are lucky in
> this country that our diplomatic ties lies in roughly the right
> direction - America. For all our complaining about the way the
> American government conducts itself, we still need the links with
> them to keep our own sort-of-peace and happiness. Just look at Iraq,
> and Syria - embargos galore, just to keep them (and their assets) in
> check.
>
> If we were to think purely in a Biblical sense, it would probably
> seem that any vague prophesising would be coming true. Not just the
> state of nations, but of the geological rumblings too. Earthquakes
> wipe out hundreds, even thousands of people in South Asia, and the
> West Coast of America has been overdue a big one for years now.
> We're also warned, almost annually now, of an asteroid collision
> wiping us out. This can probably all be extracted and interpreted
> from the Bible and other religious texts, but that doesn't mean that
> it has any real-life significance. Civilisations have risen and then
> vanished numeruous times through history. Entire South American
> empires (who did not have the Bible, but still worshipped Gods), have
> just simply ceased to exist, self-destructing under an element of
> their society that we have yet to figure out. Our best guesses are
> either greed, or some natural disaster. Even the Dinosaurs (best of
> all the animals) died out, and the only reason we have any evidence
> of their existance is because we find their bones!
>
> Today's society definitely has greed. Our whole work ethic revolves
> around making as much money as we can, so that we can lead more
> comfortable lives. While everyone has the right to earn money, and
> some are rewarded in proportion to the amount of effort they put into
> their jobs, there are always people who are in positions of authority
> that do not deserve to be there. Take Paris Hilton for example.
> Touted around trashy "lad's mag's" as a sexy babe, but
> that's all she is. No brains, no intellect - just a stick figure
> that doesn't mind flaunting her child-like body. Now it may seem
> unfair to single out one person (society has always had it's darlings
> and "It" people), but if you take the reasons she is a
> household name and the amount of people who aspire to her ideals, and
> then think about another celebrity...hmmm, let's say Arnold
> Schwarznegger...then you start to see how dangerous a mix of money,
> status and authority can be.
>
> Who would ever have thought that the star of such films as Conan The
> Barbarian, Red Sonja (although it could be argued that he was the
> sidekick), and The Terminator, would ever be in charge of such a
> large economy as California!? It's just crazy. The only thing
> stopping him getting to the White House, and being in charge of the
> mightiest superpower on Earth is that he wasn't born in the country.
> If that changes, then I fear for us all. It's blatantly obvious that
> the only reason he got anywhere in politics is because of who he is.
> Not what he stands for, or his political background, or
> academic/military prowess. He had the money and the following to
> take control. It doesn't matter if there is a better man for the
> job, when you could have Mr Frosty as your Governor. He used his
> millions to hire a crack team of publicists and PR people, used his
> Kennedy connections to sway votes, and now he's in charge.
>
> That's just America, though - it's a f**ked up country anyway.
>
> But could that happen over here? An increasingly
> "dumbed-down" nation, crime is rife, obesity is becoming
> commonplace - almost like we're becoming America #2. We like to
> think that we wouldn't be so stupid as to vote in a former
> body-builder to rule us all, but at the end of the day, it's a choice
> between Clown Number One, or Clown Number Two. No changes made in
> the 4 short years of power any Government has is enough to make a
> difference, it's all an image contest to make it look like you're
> capable of running a country. Craig from Big Brother looks quite
> handy, and he can build a shed. Jade from Big Brother has a big gob
> and a pea for a brain, but millions of people watch her on TV,
> slack-jawed, taking it all in because they've got nothing better to
> do with their lives. I honestly don't think it will be too long
> before we have someone like that in a position of authority. Then we
> truly are in for it.
>
> And of course, all this has been predicted by the Bible. Or has it?
> If it had, and there was any proof that previous predictions had come
> true (outside the sphere of vague uncertainty that all predictions
> have had thus far), then we certainly wouldn't be sitting on our
> arsses typing in chat forums. Unless it was a chat forum about
> religious predictions coming true. I'm sure our societies and
> civilisations will come to a premature and bloody demise, but I don't
> think it has any biblical connotations, it's just what happens in
> times of unrest. But the real question that's on everyone's minds
> is: How long before you're b*ggered over the bonnet of your own
> burning car?

If you want to know the end times, read Revelation.
Fri 12/03/04 at 11:17
Regular
"Pouch Ape"
Posts: 14,499
There's no denying that the world is going to pot. Wars, diseases, famines, genocides - all this is happening on a daily basis, and nothing ever seems to get resolved. It mostly occurs through diplomatic and political incompetence, a basic failure on society that the poor and weak get swept under the carpet. We are lucky in this country that our diplomatic ties lies in roughly the right direction - America. For all our complaining about the way the American government conducts itself, we still need the links with them to keep our own sort-of-peace and happiness. Just look at Iraq, and Syria - embargos galore, just to keep them (and their assets) in check.

If we were to think purely in a Biblical sense, it would probably seem that any vague prophesising would be coming true. Not just the state of nations, but of the geological rumblings too. Earthquakes wipe out hundreds, even thousands of people in South Asia, and the West Coast of America has been overdue a big one for years now. We're also warned, almost annually now, of an asteroid collision wiping us out. This can probably all be extracted and interpreted from the Bible and other religious texts, but that doesn't mean that it has any real-life significance. Civilisations have risen and then vanished numeruous times through history. Entire South American empires (who did not have the Bible, but still worshipped Gods), have just simply ceased to exist, self-destructing under an element of their society that we have yet to figure out. Our best guesses are either greed, or some natural disaster. Even the Dinosaurs (best of all the animals) died out, and the only reason we have any evidence of their existance is because we find their bones!

Today's society definitely has greed. Our whole work ethic revolves around making as much money as we can, so that we can lead more comfortable lives. While everyone has the right to earn money, and some are rewarded in proportion to the amount of effort they put into their jobs, there are always people who are in positions of authority that do not deserve to be there. Take Paris Hilton for example. Touted around trashy "lad's mag's" as a sexy babe, but that's all she is. No brains, no intellect - just a stick figure that doesn't mind flaunting her child-like body. Now it may seem unfair to single out one person (society has always had it's darlings and "It" people), but if you take the reasons she is a household name and the amount of people who aspire to her ideals, and then think about another celebrity...hmmm, let's say Arnold Schwarznegger...then you start to see how dangerous a mix of money, status and authority can be.

Who would ever have thought that the star of such films as Conan The Barbarian, Red Sonja (although it could be argued that he was the sidekick), and The Terminator, would ever be in charge of such a large economy as California!? It's just crazy. The only thing stopping him getting to the White House, and being in charge of the mightiest superpower on Earth is that he wasn't born in the country. If that changes, then I fear for us all. It's blatantly obvious that the only reason he got anywhere in politics is because of who he is. Not what he stands for, or his political background, or academic/military prowess. He had the money and the following to take control. It doesn't matter if there is a better man for the job, when you could have Mr Frosty as your Governor. He used his millions to hire a crack team of publicists and PR people, used his Kennedy connections to sway votes, and now he's in charge.

That's just America, though - it's a f**ked up country anyway.

But could that happen over here? An increasingly "dumbed-down" nation, crime is rife, obesity is becoming commonplace - almost like we're becoming America #2. We like to think that we wouldn't be so stupid as to vote in a former body-builder to rule us all, but at the end of the day, it's a choice between Clown Number One, or Clown Number Two. No changes made in the 4 short years of power any Government has is enough to make a difference, it's all an image contest to make it look like you're capable of running a country. Craig from Big Brother looks quite handy, and he can build a shed. Jade from Big Brother has a big gob and a pea for a brain, but millions of people watch her on TV, slack-jawed, taking it all in because they've got nothing better to do with their lives. I honestly don't think it will be too long before we have someone like that in a position of authority. Then we truly are in for it.

And of course, all this has been predicted by the Bible. Or has it? If it had, and there was any proof that previous predictions had come true (outside the sphere of vague uncertainty that all predictions have had thus far), then we certainly wouldn't be sitting on our arsses typing in chat forums. Unless it was a chat forum about religious predictions coming true. I'm sure our societies and civilisations will come to a premature and bloody demise, but I don't think it has any biblical connotations, it's just what happens in times of unrest. But the real question that's on everyone's minds is: How long before you're b*ggered over the bonnet of your own burning car?

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