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Wed 10/03/04 at 13:23
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Do you question, even for a second, that God might not actually exist?
Thu 11/03/04 at 16:52
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"RIP: Brian Clough"
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Rickoss wrote:
> So essentially, God is an unforgiving war tyrant hell-bent on causing
> famine, drought and great suffering in the happy land of hell, thus
> taking it as his own and building an empire to match that of the most
> brutal conquerors.

Sounds more like the devil.

> Come on, if God really existed, surely simply living your life with
> independance doesn't deserve a lifetime of torture and suffering?
> Surely that stands against everything such religions are about?

It does, because your saying you do not need GOD, as if man is good enough on his own.
Thu 11/03/04 at 16:32
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So essentially, God is an unforgiving war tyrant hell-bent on causing famine, drought and great suffering in the happy land of hell, thus taking it as his own and building an empire to match that of the most brutal conquerors.

Come on, if God really existed, surely simply living your life with independance doesn't deserve a lifetime of torture and suffering? Surely that stands against everything such religions are about?
Thu 11/03/04 at 16:25
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"gsybe you!"
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That's just utter hypocrisy.

Therefore, please answer without reaching to the heavens and crying out.
Thu 11/03/04 at 16:23
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Cyclone wrote:
> No.
>
> God is 'all forgiving'
>
> Therefore, anyone should be saved.
>
> Therefore, people who live lives obvlivious to God and yet do no
> wrong
, should be saved, regardless of whether they belive or not.

You must CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD, to be saved.

If you are perfect, sure, you would go to Heaven, BUT NO-ONE is PERFECT.
Thu 11/03/04 at 16:20
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No.

God is 'all forgiving'

Therefore, anyone should be saved.

Therefore, people who live lives obvlivious to God and yet do no wrong, should be saved, regardless of whether they belive or not.
Thu 11/03/04 at 15:24
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Cyclone wrote:
> Forest Fan-
>
> Answer these questions, straight up, no quotes or anything;
>
> 1) Why does Hell exist if God is ALL forgiving?

Becuase those who have not had their sins washed clean by Jesus on the cross and do not accept His forgiviness, becuase they are not worthy to enter Heaven as they do not know Jesus, who wants to save them.

> 2) If Jesus died 2000 years ago to save us from sin, does that not
> mean God ISN'T all forgiving?

You either pay your price for sin, by the punishment of Jesus or you can pay the price yourself for all eternity in hell.
Thu 11/03/04 at 15:19
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Forest Fan-

Answer these questions, straight up, no quotes or anything;

1) Why does Hell exist if God is ALL forgiving?
2) If Jesus died 2000 years ago to save us from sin, does that not mean God ISN'T all forgiving?
Thu 11/03/04 at 15:16
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Lindgren wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Anyway is his power of forgiveness not scary?
>
> Umm, no! Seeing as I don't believe he exists and all. The only
> thing/people I answer to is myself and the Law of my country.

You cannot deny Jesus existed, umm, no!
Thu 11/03/04 at 15:11
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Forest Fan wrote:
> Anyway is his power of forgiveness not scary?

Umm, no! Seeing as I don't believe he exists and all. The only thing/people I answer to is myself and the Law of my country.
Thu 11/03/04 at 15:08
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Anyway is his power of forgiveness not scary?

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