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So Blair warns that he "feel(s) so passionately that we are in mortal danger of mistaking the nature of the new world in which we live"
Mortal danger?
Really...hmmm...that sounds suspiciously like the RICIN-DEATH ATTACK!!!!! warnings in the initial anti-war stirrings before we invaded.
And it sounds vaguely familiar to the "TANKS AT UR AIRPORT TO KILL ARABS!!!!!!" horsecrap when public demonstrations reached the largest recorded turnout in British history.
And it echoes his "immediate danger" speech given to the public (on the BBC, ironically) shortly before we bombed the living christ out of towns.
So you'll forgive me if I cast a look at the public mood and calls for publications of the Attorney General's advice on the legality of war before I nod, accept Blair's rhetoric and barricade myself indoors being wary of anybody not white and British.
Some other points of his speech that made me realise just how shiny and offensive I find our odious leader:
"I know a large part of the public want to move on. Rightly they say the Government should concentrate on the issues that elected us in 1997: the economy, jobs, living standards, health, education, crime. "
Really? What large part is that Blair? The part that sign petitions and protested at the war? Or the silent part that...well...nope, I've yet to see a "I supported the war" demo from anybody or a "Hey, let's just forget it and move on can't we?" statement from any group except politicians desperate to distract our attentions with threats of Johnny Muslim wanting to kill us.
And here's the statement that, for me, highlighted the contempt and sheer hypocrisy our our government:
"It may well be that under international law as presently constituted, a regime can systematically brutalise and oppress its people and there is nothing anyone can do, when dialogue, diplomacy and even sanctions fail, unless it comes within the definition of a humanitarian catastrophe (though the 300,000 remains in mass graves already found in Iraq might be thought by some to be something of a catastrophe).
This may be the law, but should it be?"
Doesn't matter whether it should or shouldn't be, fact remains?
IT IS.
You can't just pick and choose which laws you want to obey. Yet Blair seems to think he can, based on moral grounds.
Don't make me puke Blair, you lying insincere bully.
If you're so concerned about "just" laws?
Stop selling arms to East Timoor to use in the brutal oppression of it's people...oh...exactly the same as in Iraq.
Stop helping to keep Burma under dictatorship regime and stop supplying them with arms.
Stop ignoring those countries where it serves your political and financial purpose to assist in the rape, murder and genocide of civilians.
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Say what you want, this is all my opinion based on how I feel.
How *you* feel doesn't mean a goddamn thing to me.
Mortal danger?
Really...hmmm...that sounds suspiciously like the RICIN-DEATH ATTACK!!!!! warnings in the initial anti-war stirrings before we invaded.
And it sounds vaguely familiar to the "TANKS AT UR AIRPORT TO KILL ARABS!!!!!!" horsecrap when public demonstrations reached the largest recorded turnout in British history.
And it echoes his "immediate danger" speech given to the public (on the BBC, ironically) shortly before we bombed the living christ out of towns.
So you'll forgive me if I cast a look at the public mood and calls for publications of the Attorney General's advice on the legality of war before I nod, accept Blair's rhetoric and barricade myself indoors being wary of anybody not white and British.
Some other points of his speech that made me realise just how shiny and offensive I find our odious leader:
"I know a large part of the public want to move on. Rightly they say the Government should concentrate on the issues that elected us in 1997: the economy, jobs, living standards, health, education, crime. "
Really? What large part is that Blair? The part that sign petitions and protested at the war? Or the silent part that...well...nope, I've yet to see a "I supported the war" demo from anybody or a "Hey, let's just forget it and move on can't we?" statement from any group except politicians desperate to distract our attentions with threats of Johnny Muslim wanting to kill us.
And here's the statement that, for me, highlighted the contempt and sheer hypocrisy our our government:
"It may well be that under international law as presently constituted, a regime can systematically brutalise and oppress its people and there is nothing anyone can do, when dialogue, diplomacy and even sanctions fail, unless it comes within the definition of a humanitarian catastrophe (though the 300,000 remains in mass graves already found in Iraq might be thought by some to be something of a catastrophe).
This may be the law, but should it be?"
Doesn't matter whether it should or shouldn't be, fact remains?
IT IS.
You can't just pick and choose which laws you want to obey. Yet Blair seems to think he can, based on moral grounds.
Don't make me puke Blair, you lying insincere bully.
If you're so concerned about "just" laws?
Stop selling arms to East Timoor to use in the brutal oppression of it's people...oh...exactly the same as in Iraq.
Stop helping to keep Burma under dictatorship regime and stop supplying them with arms.
Stop ignoring those countries where it serves your political and financial purpose to assist in the rape, murder and genocide of civilians.
-----------
Say what you want, this is all my opinion based on how I feel.
How *you* feel doesn't mean a goddamn thing to me.
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How do we intervene around the world if current international law is sketchy at best?
Sure it is the law, but maybe we need new laws for a new world.
Sure it is the law, but maybe we need new laws for a new world.
gamezfreak wrote:
> The thing is though, I have a gut instinct they'll vote him back into
> goverment, come next election.
Doubtful.
> The thing is though, I have a gut instinct they'll vote him back into
> goverment, come next election.
Doubtful.
html tags are tricky for us middle-aged smoking commies.
Goatboy wrote:
> This may be the law, but should it be?"
The I's have to be in capitals to make it work.
:)
> This may be the law, but should it be?"
The I's have to be in capitals to make it work.
:)
Interesting rant towards Mr Blair, and to be honest, even though you don't really give a monkeys about my opinion, I agree with what you have stated.
Blair has no idea.
The thing is though, I have a gut instinct they'll vote him back into goverment, come next election.
Blair has no idea.
The thing is though, I have a gut instinct they'll vote him back into goverment, come next election.
So Blair warns that he "feel(s) so passionately that we are in mortal danger of mistaking the nature of the new world in which we live"
Mortal danger?
Really...hmmm...that sounds suspiciously like the RICIN-DEATH ATTACK!!!!! warnings in the initial anti-war stirrings before we invaded.
And it sounds vaguely familiar to the "TANKS AT UR AIRPORT TO KILL ARABS!!!!!!" horsecrap when public demonstrations reached the largest recorded turnout in British history.
And it echoes his "immediate danger" speech given to the public (on the BBC, ironically) shortly before we bombed the living christ out of towns.
So you'll forgive me if I cast a look at the public mood and calls for publications of the Attorney General's advice on the legality of war before I nod, accept Blair's rhetoric and barricade myself indoors being wary of anybody not white and British.
Some other points of his speech that made me realise just how shiny and offensive I find our odious leader:
"I know a large part of the public want to move on. Rightly they say the Government should concentrate on the issues that elected us in 1997: the economy, jobs, living standards, health, education, crime. "
Really? What large part is that Blair? The part that sign petitions and protested at the war? Or the silent part that...well...nope, I've yet to see a "I supported the war" demo from anybody or a "Hey, let's just forget it and move on can't we?" statement from any group except politicians desperate to distract our attentions with threats of Johnny Muslim wanting to kill us.
And here's the statement that, for me, highlighted the contempt and sheer hypocrisy our our government:
"It may well be that under international law as presently constituted, a regime can systematically brutalise and oppress its people and there is nothing anyone can do, when dialogue, diplomacy and even sanctions fail, unless it comes within the definition of a humanitarian catastrophe (though the 300,000 remains in mass graves already found in Iraq might be thought by some to be something of a catastrophe).
This may be the law, but should it be?"
Doesn't matter whether it should or shouldn't be, fact remains?
IT IS.
You can't just pick and choose which laws you want to obey. Yet Blair seems to think he can, based on moral grounds.
Don't make me puke Blair, you lying insincere bully.
If you're so concerned about "just" laws?
Stop selling arms to East Timoor to use in the brutal oppression of it's people...oh...exactly the same as in Iraq.
Stop helping to keep Burma under dictatorship regime and stop supplying them with arms.
Stop ignoring those countries where it serves your political and financial purpose to assist in the rape, murder and genocide of civilians.
-----------
Say what you want, this is all my opinion based on how I feel.
How *you* feel doesn't mean a goddamn thing to me.
Mortal danger?
Really...hmmm...that sounds suspiciously like the RICIN-DEATH ATTACK!!!!! warnings in the initial anti-war stirrings before we invaded.
And it sounds vaguely familiar to the "TANKS AT UR AIRPORT TO KILL ARABS!!!!!!" horsecrap when public demonstrations reached the largest recorded turnout in British history.
And it echoes his "immediate danger" speech given to the public (on the BBC, ironically) shortly before we bombed the living christ out of towns.
So you'll forgive me if I cast a look at the public mood and calls for publications of the Attorney General's advice on the legality of war before I nod, accept Blair's rhetoric and barricade myself indoors being wary of anybody not white and British.
Some other points of his speech that made me realise just how shiny and offensive I find our odious leader:
"I know a large part of the public want to move on. Rightly they say the Government should concentrate on the issues that elected us in 1997: the economy, jobs, living standards, health, education, crime. "
Really? What large part is that Blair? The part that sign petitions and protested at the war? Or the silent part that...well...nope, I've yet to see a "I supported the war" demo from anybody or a "Hey, let's just forget it and move on can't we?" statement from any group except politicians desperate to distract our attentions with threats of Johnny Muslim wanting to kill us.
And here's the statement that, for me, highlighted the contempt and sheer hypocrisy our our government:
"It may well be that under international law as presently constituted, a regime can systematically brutalise and oppress its people and there is nothing anyone can do, when dialogue, diplomacy and even sanctions fail, unless it comes within the definition of a humanitarian catastrophe (though the 300,000 remains in mass graves already found in Iraq might be thought by some to be something of a catastrophe).
This may be the law, but should it be?"
Doesn't matter whether it should or shouldn't be, fact remains?
IT IS.
You can't just pick and choose which laws you want to obey. Yet Blair seems to think he can, based on moral grounds.
Don't make me puke Blair, you lying insincere bully.
If you're so concerned about "just" laws?
Stop selling arms to East Timoor to use in the brutal oppression of it's people...oh...exactly the same as in Iraq.
Stop helping to keep Burma under dictatorship regime and stop supplying them with arms.
Stop ignoring those countries where it serves your political and financial purpose to assist in the rape, murder and genocide of civilians.
-----------
Say what you want, this is all my opinion based on how I feel.
How *you* feel doesn't mean a goddamn thing to me.
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