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So what do you guys think of the new proposals for a diploma system.
From what I have heard so far it sounds good to me, although I am still sceptical. One thing I am sure of is that something needs to be done, especially when these days you can take a modular A level and retake exams up to three times in order to pass. The A level students take today is in no way equivalent of the A levels taken five or ten years ago.
What peeves me off the most about the whole system is the students, or rather the way in which the education system has failed them. Its not their fault they were studying at the time the government decided to tinker with everything and mess it all up, and at the end of the day, fail to provide them with the high quality education they are entitled to in order to let more people through the net.
From what I've heard of the new system you get to make up your diploma with an emphasis on vital mathematical and english skills, and then you can add other bits of what you fancy, be that more maths, languages, arts or science, or maybe more practical skills too.
Perhaps this will take away some of the stigma that has been associated for years on people who leave school to pursue more practical paths to become apprentices, and provide less pressure for students to go on to higher university education (now "normal" education) whether they are really capable or not.
rant over.
I guess a lot of you are either about to enter, are involved in or are leaving the current system now, what are your view on the way the government is playing with your futures?
From what I have heard so far it sounds good to me, although I am still sceptical. One thing I am sure of is that something needs to be done, especially when these days you can take a modular A level and retake exams up to three times in order to pass. The A level students take today is in no way equivalent of the A levels taken five or ten years ago.
What peeves me off the most about the whole system is the students, or rather the way in which the education system has failed them. Its not their fault they were studying at the time the government decided to tinker with everything and mess it all up, and at the end of the day, fail to provide them with the high quality education they are entitled to in order to let more people through the net.
From what I've heard of the new system you get to make up your diploma with an emphasis on vital mathematical and english skills, and then you can add other bits of what you fancy, be that more maths, languages, arts or science, or maybe more practical skills too.
Perhaps this will take away some of the stigma that has been associated for years on people who leave school to pursue more practical paths to become apprentices, and provide less pressure for students to go on to higher university education (now "normal" education) whether they are really capable or not.
rant over.
I guess a lot of you are either about to enter, are involved in or are leaving the current system now, what are your view on the way the government is playing with your futures?
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ßulle††™ wrote:
> Simon Says wrote:
> suddenly you need a doctorate to flip burgers in your
> local Maccy D's.
>
> Lol!
That's my future you're laughing at >:(
> Simon Says wrote:
> suddenly you need a doctorate to flip burgers in your
> local Maccy D's.
>
> Lol!
That's my future you're laughing at >:(
Simon Says wrote:
> suddenly you need a doctorate to flip burgers in your
> local Maccy D's.
Lol!
> suddenly you need a doctorate to flip burgers in your
> local Maccy D's.
Lol!
Ineedsleep wrote:
> It just reminds me that all our lecturers
> tell us that we usually do better in the exams / assignments then the
> full timers.
Please do expand on that.
To be honest I'm not surprised at that at all. Since Tony's "education, education, education (whether they're suited to it or not)" speech I think the standard of university students has dropped considerably. I know a lot of students and a huge number of them appear to be doing a degree because that's what mummy and daddy/society/good old Tony wants.
Further Education becomes normal education, the standard of further education drop, suddenly you need a doctorate to flip burgers in your local Maccy D's.
On the plus side, it should stop the brain drain to Europe and the U.S. once they realise our degrees are worth diddly squat now.
> It just reminds me that all our lecturers
> tell us that we usually do better in the exams / assignments then the
> full timers.
Please do expand on that.
To be honest I'm not surprised at that at all. Since Tony's "education, education, education (whether they're suited to it or not)" speech I think the standard of university students has dropped considerably. I know a lot of students and a huge number of them appear to be doing a degree because that's what mummy and daddy/society/good old Tony wants.
Further Education becomes normal education, the standard of further education drop, suddenly you need a doctorate to flip burgers in your local Maccy D's.
On the plus side, it should stop the brain drain to Europe and the U.S. once they realise our degrees are worth diddly squat now.
Er - I'll expand on that last post. I work full time but am doing a degree for 'fun' part time.
However, this does remind me of a conversation I had with one of the lads on the course recently. I might post something up on here.
However, this does remind me of a conversation I had with one of the lads on the course recently. I might post something up on here.
I haven't heard anything about this but from your short description it sounds like a good thing. It just reminds me that all our lecturers tell us that we usually do better in the exams / assignments then the full timers.
Although this has no effect on me (I left in '99), I do feel for the students.
The government had better execute this proposed changeover with a level of perfection, otherwise a LOT of people are going to be angry.
Sadly, I can see this becoming a catastrophe as they make (more) mistakes and forget vital issues.
The government had better execute this proposed changeover with a level of perfection, otherwise a LOT of people are going to be angry.
Sadly, I can see this becoming a catastrophe as they make (more) mistakes and forget vital issues.
So what do you guys think of the new proposals for a diploma system.
From what I have heard so far it sounds good to me, although I am still sceptical. One thing I am sure of is that something needs to be done, especially when these days you can take a modular A level and retake exams up to three times in order to pass. The A level students take today is in no way equivalent of the A levels taken five or ten years ago.
What peeves me off the most about the whole system is the students, or rather the way in which the education system has failed them. Its not their fault they were studying at the time the government decided to tinker with everything and mess it all up, and at the end of the day, fail to provide them with the high quality education they are entitled to in order to let more people through the net.
From what I've heard of the new system you get to make up your diploma with an emphasis on vital mathematical and english skills, and then you can add other bits of what you fancy, be that more maths, languages, arts or science, or maybe more practical skills too.
Perhaps this will take away some of the stigma that has been associated for years on people who leave school to pursue more practical paths to become apprentices, and provide less pressure for students to go on to higher university education (now "normal" education) whether they are really capable or not.
rant over.
I guess a lot of you are either about to enter, are involved in or are leaving the current system now, what are your view on the way the government is playing with your futures?
From what I have heard so far it sounds good to me, although I am still sceptical. One thing I am sure of is that something needs to be done, especially when these days you can take a modular A level and retake exams up to three times in order to pass. The A level students take today is in no way equivalent of the A levels taken five or ten years ago.
What peeves me off the most about the whole system is the students, or rather the way in which the education system has failed them. Its not their fault they were studying at the time the government decided to tinker with everything and mess it all up, and at the end of the day, fail to provide them with the high quality education they are entitled to in order to let more people through the net.
From what I've heard of the new system you get to make up your diploma with an emphasis on vital mathematical and english skills, and then you can add other bits of what you fancy, be that more maths, languages, arts or science, or maybe more practical skills too.
Perhaps this will take away some of the stigma that has been associated for years on people who leave school to pursue more practical paths to become apprentices, and provide less pressure for students to go on to higher university education (now "normal" education) whether they are really capable or not.
rant over.
I guess a lot of you are either about to enter, are involved in or are leaving the current system now, what are your view on the way the government is playing with your futures?
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