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Tue 03/02/04 at 22:03
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....Pity it's in the wrong net! ;-)

Boro win 2-1 against the Arsenal

Sorry Boro but I think it's Bolton's year.
Sat 21/02/04 at 23:51
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Oh don't get me wrong as much as I dislike Man Utd I do love to watch them play. Although I feel Arsenal play the most freeflowing and exciting football in the Premiership some of the Man Utd counter attacks are awesome to watch.

Its the defence thats the problem.
Sat 21/02/04 at 23:31
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I wasn't happy with the sale of Beckham either and I don't think most United fans were, but thats all in the past now - unfortunatly we have to face reality and get on with what we have.

However, Beckham was on the bench most of last season and Ole was more than effective on the right wing. Once all our players are fit and back from suspensions - we are still a pretty formidable team.
Sat 21/02/04 at 23:15
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Absolu† Neó wrote:
> ÂLІÂÎR wrote:
> Your point being? It was because of him why they lost Stam and
> Beckham,
>
> Yes, yet we still won the title. Fergies has made mistakes I agree
> with that.


Yes that year but Utd also had cover, decent cover. In Stam's case its caught up with them over time, especially in the Champions League, this season though the Beckham impact is much bigger than people imagined. I can see the last game of the season now and I know for sure that they WILL regret getting rid of such in irreplaceable player.
Sat 21/02/04 at 23:12
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I don't like Man Utd because they think they can walk over anyone and do what ever they want without anyone touching them. Fergie has found out the hard way and so have some of the players this season through disciplinary and of course Rio Ferdinand. The supposed invincible Man Utd are no more and its great to see them getting the hard treatment. Fergie especially.
Sat 21/02/04 at 23:03
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ÂLІÂÎR wrote:
> Your point being? It was because of him why they lost Stam and
> Beckham,

Yes, yet we still won the title. Fergies has made mistakes I agree with that.

> Getting back? Don't make me laugh. Wes Brown simply isn't good
> enough,

Maybe he isn't but it's still not a reason to hate Man Utd is it?

> No I am a magpie, no interest in Arsenal what so ever

So basically you hate Man U because of Fergie and Wes Brown.
Sat 21/02/04 at 22:54
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Absolu† Neó wrote:
> Fergie maybe obnoxious yet he is still the most succesful.

Your point being? It was because of him why they lost Stam and Beckham, both the former and the latter will be laughing now the are seriously lacking at the back and that there simply isn't anyone to replace Beckham in the united midfield.

> Wes Brown has been out for 1 year with a career threatening injury,
> so he is bound to take time getting back into the game, but if this
> is one of the reasons you hate Man Utd then im sorry but that's just
> idiotic.

Getting back? Don't make me laugh. Wes Brown simply isn't good enough, we are talking about a team going for the league and the champions league and putside of Silvestre they can only offer Wes Brown and a make shift central defender. His casual/relaxed attitude has cost united badly in the past, foreign defences will have a field day with him unles he is seriously on top of his game.

> when Viera picks up the premier league trophey.
>
> Another cocky comment from a gooner I guess we will just have to wait
> and see what happens but I wouldn't count your chickens just yet, you
> know what happened last season.

No I am a magpie, no interest in Arsenal what so ever aside from the fact that I hope they take the league because I can't stand united. As for counting chickens, I think I can safely collect them all up now.
Tue 17/02/04 at 10:52
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Ju§t Tinkª wrote:
still are conceding like theirs no tommorows.

*theres no tommorow.
Tue 17/02/04 at 10:51
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The thing that bugs me is the calibre of defenders we have and yet we still are conceding like theirs no tommorows.

O'shea, Keane (possibly), Neville (eek), Brown, Silvestre, Fortune (Cringes).

When compared to some other "solid" defenders in the premiership then you would think its good enough. Not the case.
Tue 17/02/04 at 10:47
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It's just taken time with Arsénal, and now, finally, things have set.

Losing the likes of Adams, Dixon and Winterburn (not to mention, Seaman) after all those years was always gonna hit you hard. You could sign whoever you like to play in attack - as many Thierry Henry's as can fit on one team-sheet, even! - but, without a solid backline that both knows and works well with each-other, you're always going to suffer set-backs, at some stage.

It took only Ruud van Nistelrooy (at the end of last season) to hit your Title Run when he single-handedly took full-advantage of Martin Keown's mistake, and there appeared to be nobody else around to help him.


Now, though, the likes of Toure and Lauren (after some adaptability) and settled in at the back very well, and alongside Sol Campbell, your team is looking almost "unbreakable", once again.

Wenger has been quite heavily critisised for not buying here-and-there; for bringing in a new Adams or younger Keown - yet, look at how a little patience with players has given a great effect, over time.


Perhaps there's a lesson for Sir Alex to learn here, if we are to get over this defensive crisis of our own...?
Tue 17/02/04 at 10:38
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Hmm. Definately the Gooners seem allot more focused this season. I just can't see anyone beating them.

Its like even with their kiddies, they smashed Wolves in the Carling cup.

And how many times are their good players injured/suspended, yet they still win. United lose Rio, one player and the titles gone :S.

Players like Edu look really confident compared to last season.

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