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Wed 28/03/01 at 12:34
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Hi

I was wondering has anyone else experienced large black boarders on their screens while playing Z.O.E and the MGS demo? I'm not talking about the small boarders you usually get around PAL converted games, these boarders are pretty thick and whilst you don't notice them too much during the game, when a cut scene loads up they really stick out!

Does anyone else have this or do I need a new T.V?

Wed 28/03/01 at 15:08
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Maybe I've been so absorbed in the games, I haven't noticed the borders! I'll check it out later then. No doubt I'll keep noticing them now (much the same way that you keep noticing cue dots on film straight after they've been pointed out to you for the first time).

One thing I had noticed was that the FMV in Starfighter has small borders on the left and right hand side of the screen on my TV.
Wed 28/03/01 at 13:37
"High polygon count"
Posts: 15,624
> Yeah I've thought about that, I'm using my old PS1 scart connector
> to connect to the T.V. The RGB scart does reduce the problem, but
> only slightly and the picture is degraded a lot. Can you get PS2
> scarts?

I'm using my old PS1 SCART lead too, and the picture is crystal clear.

You can get PS2 SCART leads, but as with the S-Video lead, I thing they are scarce in the UK. I wouldn't worry too much though, because the PS1 and PS2 SCART leads are identical in every way except the colour - grey for PS1 and black for PS2.
Wed 28/03/01 at 13:35
"High polygon count"
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> I've only seen that
> option in Tekken Tag. I'm surprised that other games don't feature
> it.

Ridge Racer V has it, as does Moto GP. I'm sure a few others do, but I can't think of them at the mo...
Wed 28/03/01 at 13:32
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Yeah I've thought about that, I'm using my old PS1 scart connector to connect to the T.V. The RGB scart does reduce the problem, but only slightly and the picture is degraded a lot. Can you get PS2 scarts?

Wòókiee Møn§†€R wrote:
> Jehuty wrote:
> You got an old T.V?


I know this was
> primarily aimed at Goatboy, but I thought I'd tell you
> anyway...

Mine is a Sony Wega.

One thought I have is that the
> screen position *could* be dependent on how your PS2 is connected to
> the TV. Mine is connected through RGB SCART, and although some
> games are off-centre, it's never too bad.

It could be that if you
> connect using composite or S-Video that you get a slightly different
> screen position, but I'm not sure.
Wed 28/03/01 at 13:29
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Nah, it's a brand new 28" widescreen Sony thing.
But still have the borders.
No positioning option but not too distracting.
Wed 28/03/01 at 13:28
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Yeah big up for a screen-centring option!

I've only seen that option in Tekken Tag. I'm surprised that other games don't feature it.

Wòókiee Møn§†€R wrote:
> It's just the positioning of the image on some TV's. I have a
> small-ish border on ZOE, but none on MGS2.

Many games give you an
> option to move/centre the screen, but these don't. Hopefully the
> full version of MGS2 will; I think a screen-centring option is vital
> in all games, moreso even than a 60Hz option.
Wed 28/03/01 at 13:27
"High polygon count"
Posts: 15,624
Jehuty wrote:
> You got an old T.V?


I know this was primarily aimed at Goatboy, but I thought I'd tell you anyway...

Mine is a Sony Wega.

One thought I have is that the screen position *could* be dependent on how your PS2 is connected to the TV. Mine is connected through RGB SCART, and although some games are off-centre, it's never too bad.

It could be that if you connect using composite or S-Video that you get a slightly different screen position, but I'm not sure.
Wed 28/03/01 at 13:22
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You got an old T.V?

Mine's getting on a bit so I thought it might be something to do with that.

Goatboy wrote:
> Nope, I got them too.
I think it's just these two games.

The
> Z.O.E is quite bad at the bottom of the screen during gameplay and a
> bit wide on the left.

It's not just your TV mate if that helps.
Wed 28/03/01 at 13:21
"High polygon count"
Posts: 15,624
It's just the positioning of the image on some TV's. I have a small-ish border on ZOE, but none on MGS2.

Many games give you an option to move/centre the screen, but these don't. Hopefully the full version of MGS2 will; I think a screen-centring option is vital in all games, moreso even than a 60Hz option.
Wed 28/03/01 at 13:10
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Nope, I got them too.
I think it's just these two games.

The Z.O.E is quite bad at the bottom of the screen during gameplay and a bit wide on the left.

It's not just your TV mate if that helps.

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