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Sun 18/01/04 at 20:50
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Yo

This is for all you linux buffs, Basically i am going to install windows xp on my lappie (Acer travelmate, celeron 2.4, 256mbDDR, 30gb hdd) as i can't stand all the little applicaitions that acer put on there recovery disks so im going to use an OEM windows XP, anyway before i do this i want to have a little look at linux but am unsure if i woudl be able to get all the drivers and am also unsure what linux to use i have with me at the moment Red hat and lindows but can get anything else, what would you guys suggest.

Cheers

COlin
Mon 19/01/04 at 11:34
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Mon 19/01/04 at 09:59
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O.k then i may install it on my P4 2.8ghz system, what version of linux for that???

Cheers

Colin
Mon 19/01/04 at 02:10
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I've got Linux on a Sony Vaio, by the way, but it's a pretty old machine so it was fairly painless. Except for the ******* wireless PCMIA card.
Mon 19/01/04 at 02:08
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If you're installing Linux on a laptop then you'll need patience, luck and a big enough user base that someone, somewhere will already have experienced and solved all of your problems. I've found the gentoo people to be very helpful but I wouldn't reccommend it as a first Linux install on a laptop.

I'd say try Debian first and then the free, commercial distros afterwards - if only for what I've heard about their user communities. If that doesn't work then you could buy one of the distros that offer support - but then we'd all laugh at you. Nah, not really.
Sun 18/01/04 at 22:37
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You'll find Turbonutter may come here and say that Debian is the best distro, and that may be for desktop, but just ignore him. He even told me not to install Linux on a lappie when I suggested it, so there.
Sun 18/01/04 at 22:35
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Yo yo to you to.

Linux doesn't work on a laptop. That's what I thought when atempting to install all the major distros of Linux onto my small laptop, only to be greeted by a freeze at the same point of installtion for each distro, bar Debian. I think it was something to do with the incompatibility with the laptop and the installer.

However, I finally got one distro to work by network installation (downloading the packages through the FTP sites), though a came across a further problem when the installer wouldn't recognise the type of display it was, which was an unoonventional 12 inch monitor, which may be to blame.

Moving onto my other proper laptop, with a seperate GPU, I found that all distros I tried (Mandrake, Debian, SuSe and Red Hat) worked, and the display set correctly on Debian. These distros (and probably Lindows too) will probably recognise all your hardware bar the GPU (unless yours in onboard) - so you'll have to manually download the driver from nvidia.com if it's a GF Go - I don't think Radeon have mobile drivers for Linux, but I could be wrong. Just ignore this part if your graphics is onboard - even with a GF or Radeon, the OS still works, you just won't be able to use any 3D programs.

Hmmm, I may as well just tell you the things you need to be wary of:

- Installing Linux (any distro) may not work with an external drive - the OS istaller may boot from disc, but the (mostly) successful network installation on my small laptop (which used an external drive for installing CDs from) proved that the external drive was to blame; and because all the distros installed successfully from my internal drive in my other laptop, I presume this is the most likely case.

- If you have a 3D GPU, you will have to install drivers for it.
- You may have to install drivers for your network card or winmodem (unless one of the cards listed during installation is there), so make sure you have outside access to a computer with a CD RW and net access.

- SuSE is hardly what I call fast. My setup had 1gig of RAM ang is 3GHz, yet is was still noticeably sluggish. Red Hat was far better and less clumsier in design.

-Unless you can create your own bootloaders, it's best to install XP first. The Linux distro will automatically create a bootloader for you so you can dual boot, while Windows just makes its own for XP booting only. There is a way round this though; after installing Linux, then Windows, boot from the Linux CD again and proceed with a normal Linux install, but reset when the installer starts copying the system OS files, as you will already have had them.

- Make sure you have enough partitions for Linux, it's swap partition, and Windows. As most HDs are limited to 4 primary partitions.


Hmm, can't think of anything else right now.
Sun 18/01/04 at 21:50
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Linux on a laptop is not for the faint of heart. I wouldn't try it, but Icarus did. I imagine he'll post some of his experiences next time he is on.
Sun 18/01/04 at 21:19
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To be honest, if you want to learn linux, get Gentoo.

I'll post a better reply later.

Battlefield 1942 calls now.
Sun 18/01/04 at 20:50
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Yo

This is for all you linux buffs, Basically i am going to install windows xp on my lappie (Acer travelmate, celeron 2.4, 256mbDDR, 30gb hdd) as i can't stand all the little applicaitions that acer put on there recovery disks so im going to use an OEM windows XP, anyway before i do this i want to have a little look at linux but am unsure if i woudl be able to get all the drivers and am also unsure what linux to use i have with me at the moment Red hat and lindows but can get anything else, what would you guys suggest.

Cheers

COlin

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