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"i hate cheating"

As a long term gamer i do not agree with cheating on computer games, it is pointless and i don't agree with it.

As alot of regulars on this sight, I like to to complete a game from the beginning to the end through all the complex (or easy) levels of the game, and when i've completed the a game (if it was hard) i feel warm inside because i have completed it after hours of playing. But there are some people in the world who can't be bothered, or find it to hard to do allthe levels so they use a cheat to get to the last level, or put a cheat that makes you invincible or gives you infinite ammo etc through out the game.

Another thing that cheeses me off is when so called gamers buy a game get so far, but then get stuck so they go and buy a guide for the game and use that complete it and then they have the guts to say that they have completed it and found it easy.

I have lent my friend FFIX and and he has been telling hoe far he has got in such short time, but i found yesterday that he was using a guide to complete, that really cheesed me off because i spent a lot of time on that game trying to to do all the mini games and get perfect score in them, and all my friend was doing was using a guide to complete

i'm glad i got that off my chest

Fish:)

Grix Thraves wrote:
> I see Sniper's counting lessons didn't sink in FM...

That's the trouble, I think they did....

Some people I know spend hours looking for cheats on games that they haven't even bought or played yet.

One word comes to mind: LOSERS!

I can see why Fishsticks is annoyed.
He spends ages completing a game properly.
His friend cheats through it and has the nerve to say that it's too easy.

I think that more games should adopt Goldeneyes cheat system.

Everyone loves to mess around with cheats every now and then. And what's more, you have to be a good enough gamer to EARN them.

So cheating gamers can't ruin things and those of us who play the game properly still get the chance to mess around with invisibilty or secret weapons once we've earned them.

I see Sniper's counting lessons didn't sink in FM...

i agree

Your life or life in general?
That could be quite a long time.

I think you can learn more by doing a game yourself without a guide than by just sitting there and letting a book tell you where all the secrets are.

It's a bit like using a calculator all the time, you forget your times tables too easily.

Gaming to some of us is not just about playing, it's about overcoming a challenge by ourselves, the ultimate kudos (in some gaming circles) is being able to beat a game using just your own gaming skills. Only that way can you:

1) say you've acheived something
c) learn't something
4) won the game

FM: Hardcore Gamer since LIFE began.

Fair enough!
Incidentally, what do you think of cheats in games like Goldeneye, were you have to achieve something to unlock it and if you use it you can't progrees further through the game? I don't like cheats either but I think this type of cheat is much more acceptable.

If you buy a game for £30 say, and you get your £30's worth from playing it, does it matter if your mate buys a guid for another tenner and completes it by using the guide? I dont think so, to be honest, im not too bothered if i complete a game or not. If i get my moneys worth i dont care. If have great fun playing the first 5 levels and dont get any further, whats the problem?

i spend time completing a game and then some goes and uses a guide to get through its just as bad as cheating ibn my books

I understand that, but why should him cheating bother you?
You played it, you enjoyed it, end of story. If your friend wants to be guided by the hand let him! Don't let it bother you. You are a true gamer your friend is not:)