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How on earth can UEFA still be threatening to kick England out of the Euro finals if there's any crowd trouble, when...

(a) They are making tickets readily available to anyone from their website, without any type of checks?

(b) They are so CONSISTENTLY soft on the Turks?

Don or†ega wrote:
> So what your saying is we should still blame all Germans for what
> happened to the jews?

I didn't realise I said that.
Oh, wait..

Well, many stil blame the British for colonisation and the slave trade, so why not?

:-)

jim-hat wrote:
> So, somehow, because something happened many years ago it is
> irrelavent?
> Mass murdering of Jews? pfffft - happened years ago 'm8'.

So what your saying is we should still blame all Germans for what happened to the jews?

Don or†ega wrote:
> www.sirc.org/publik/football_violence.html


"Football hooliganism is clearly not an exclusively 'British Disease'. Nor can the British hooligans be held entirely responsible for 'spreading' the disease in Europe."

At least *someone* else can see it.

So, somehow, because something happened many years ago it is irrelavent?
Mass murdering of Jews? pfffft - happened years ago 'm8'.

Insane Bartender wrote:
> Conveniently not commenting on the huge Turkish riots requiring troops
> and tanks to break it up I see.

Actually, please post a link to that. I'd like to read about it purely on a curiosity level. I pressume your talking about the trouble between Kayseri and Sivas. Which happened how many decades ago?
What you gonna bring up next WW2?

This is quite interesting by the way. Quite a long read though.


www.sirc.org/publik/football_violence.html

Thats a national situation though isnt it. Not international. Which should be dealt with by the turkish afforities.

Conveniently not commenting on the huge Turkish riots requiring troops and tanks to break it up I see.

Insane Bartender wrote:
> Ortega, you're so blind.
>
> England fans inavded the pitch at the end of the England Turkey game,

Check your glasses m8. England fans invaded that pitch after both goals and after the game.

I'm not saying other countries dont have problems. Just that England problems have much deeper roots going on for years.


Remember that game in Ireland...


"You'll never beat the Irish....You'll never beat the irish"

Too bad the england fans took it litterally. Okay, defend it with the fact the seating arrangment was stupid, but its still unnaccaptable. Every country gets its fair share of warnings but it cant go on forever.

"Russia, lose to Japan in world cup. Result? street riots and brutal murders."

yes thats bad. But what can Fifa/uefa really do about that when it happens thousands of miles away from the staduim?

Donal MacKintyre investigates. Yeah he infiltrated the chelsea headhunters. The one memorable line for me was when one guy was talking in the pub and he was due in court on assault charges "its good to have a bit of time under your belt anyway".