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Gates "accidentally" letting slip the release date.
Taken from Gamespot.com [URL]http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/06/news_6123821.html[/URL]
"Today, MTV's advance schedule began running a listing for MTV Presents: The Next Generation Xbox Revealed, the special that will see the Xbox 360 shown to the public for the first time. Besides saying how the show will feature "tours of the design labs Interviews with the designers Behind-the-scenes and inside scoop" the listing promises to feature "trailers of the newest games that are due out in November for the new Xbox" (emphasis added).
The listing appears to cement suspicions that the next Xbox will launch on the fourth anniversary of the original Xbox's release in mid-November 2001. However, despite the clear wording of the MTV listing, Microsoft representatives said they could not comment on it for the time being."
Taken from Gamespot.com [URL]http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/06/news_6123821.html[/URL]
"Today, MTV's advance schedule began running a listing for MTV Presents: The Next Generation Xbox Revealed, the special that will see the Xbox 360 shown to the public for the first time. Besides saying how the show will feature "tours of the design labs Interviews with the designers Behind-the-scenes and inside scoop" the listing promises to feature "trailers of the newest games that are due out in November for the new Xbox" (emphasis added).
The listing appears to cement suspicions that the next Xbox will launch on the fourth anniversary of the original Xbox's release in mid-November 2001. However, despite the clear wording of the MTV listing, Microsoft representatives said they could not comment on it for the time being."
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MJ wrote:
> Very true, but PC's are always going to be upgradeable and the
> developers have a pretty much constant stream of new hardware and
> features to play around with, console developers are more constrained
> when it comes to this aspect. The new Xbox at least will in theory
> wipe the floor with any PC when it's released, but I'm sure it won't
> be long before PC's are hot on their trail. I mean dual GPU's are
> going to become common place soonish and I'm sure it won't take long
> for processors to achieve the same sort of performance the Xbox is
> going to provide.
>
> Of course I may be wrong and new Xbox could completely dominate as
> far as Hardware goes, but I can't see people such as ATI sitting back
> knowing that they've made some beastly cards for a console and not
> wish to push the boundaries even further.
Having defined and set hardware is far more beneficial for a developer than having to support multiple types of graphics chips, processor architectures and chipsets. You can code far better when you don't have to worry about all these things. And when you don't have to use Windows.
SLI video cards will not take off. They just don't warrant the performance right now for the cost. 30% improvement for adding a second card is a fairly accurate figure, and that is only for games that support SLI. Remember, it is nothing new. 3DFX did it years ago, and it failed back then.
Dual-core processors will bring improvements to processor power of course, but at the moment, will offer no benefit whatsoever because very very few games are multithreaded, and as the first dual-core processors come into the market, they will have slower clockspeeds than current top of the range processors, so games will actually lose out performance wise.
Of course you are right in saying that PCs will catch up again. ATI will of course release related graphics cards. Processors will get faster again, plus they will have more cores. And in time, games will appear that are multithreaded so as to take advantage of all these new features. But certainly for a short while, the new consoles will be considerably more powerful and they won't have to wait for software to catch up the same.
> Very true, but PC's are always going to be upgradeable and the
> developers have a pretty much constant stream of new hardware and
> features to play around with, console developers are more constrained
> when it comes to this aspect. The new Xbox at least will in theory
> wipe the floor with any PC when it's released, but I'm sure it won't
> be long before PC's are hot on their trail. I mean dual GPU's are
> going to become common place soonish and I'm sure it won't take long
> for processors to achieve the same sort of performance the Xbox is
> going to provide.
>
> Of course I may be wrong and new Xbox could completely dominate as
> far as Hardware goes, but I can't see people such as ATI sitting back
> knowing that they've made some beastly cards for a console and not
> wish to push the boundaries even further.
Having defined and set hardware is far more beneficial for a developer than having to support multiple types of graphics chips, processor architectures and chipsets. You can code far better when you don't have to worry about all these things. And when you don't have to use Windows.
SLI video cards will not take off. They just don't warrant the performance right now for the cost. 30% improvement for adding a second card is a fairly accurate figure, and that is only for games that support SLI. Remember, it is nothing new. 3DFX did it years ago, and it failed back then.
Dual-core processors will bring improvements to processor power of course, but at the moment, will offer no benefit whatsoever because very very few games are multithreaded, and as the first dual-core processors come into the market, they will have slower clockspeeds than current top of the range processors, so games will actually lose out performance wise.
Of course you are right in saying that PCs will catch up again. ATI will of course release related graphics cards. Processors will get faster again, plus they will have more cores. And in time, games will appear that are multithreaded so as to take advantage of all these new features. But certainly for a short while, the new consoles will be considerably more powerful and they won't have to wait for software to catch up the same.
If they do name PD2 as a release the console will be mine as well, well it should be anyway - finance wise my life is going to be very different come september.
The programme's on MTV UK this Friday.
If they have anything about Perfect Dark 2 being a launch title then I'm as good as sold and I'll place my pre-order as soon as possible.
If they have anything about Perfect Dark 2 being a launch title then I'm as good as sold and I'll place my pre-order as soon as possible.
Very true, but PC's are always going to be upgradeable and the developers have a pretty much constant stream of new hardware and features to play around with, console developers are more constrained when it comes to this aspect. The new Xbox at least will in theory wipe the floor with any PC when it's released, but I'm sure it won't be long before PC's are hot on their trail. I mean dual GPU's are going to become common place soonish and I'm sure it won't take long for processors to achieve the same sort of performance the Xbox is going to provide.
Of course I may be wrong and new Xbox could completely dominate as far as Hardware goes, but I can't see people such as ATI sitting back knowing that they've made some beastly cards for a console and not wish to push the boundaries even further.
Of course I may be wrong and new Xbox could completely dominate as far as Hardware goes, but I can't see people such as ATI sitting back knowing that they've made some beastly cards for a console and not wish to push the boundaries even further.
Power wise, the new Xbox will be far in advance of even top of the range PCs. Xbox 360 or whatever is supposed to have a variant of the ATI R520 graphics chip - that'll be the successor to the X850 then. Not to mention three dual-core PowerPC based processors.
PCs will be trying to catch up with consoles.
PCs will be trying to catch up with consoles.
I didn't even realise it had been so long if I'm honest, then again I suppose I bought mine almost a year and a half ago despite waiting ages before taking the plunge. If console developers want to start churning out the kind of games PC's are going to be capable of by the end of this year the new generation of consoles are definately going to be essential.
Four years is pretty short for a console life span, but I guess that's about the right time if MS want to be competitive. Sounds good, I look forward to it.
Gates "accidentally" letting slip the release date.
Taken from Gamespot.com [URL]http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/06/news_6123821.html[/URL]
"Today, MTV's advance schedule began running a listing for MTV Presents: The Next Generation Xbox Revealed, the special that will see the Xbox 360 shown to the public for the first time. Besides saying how the show will feature "tours of the design labs Interviews with the designers Behind-the-scenes and inside scoop" the listing promises to feature "trailers of the newest games that are due out in November for the new Xbox" (emphasis added).
The listing appears to cement suspicions that the next Xbox will launch on the fourth anniversary of the original Xbox's release in mid-November 2001. However, despite the clear wording of the MTV listing, Microsoft representatives said they could not comment on it for the time being."
Taken from Gamespot.com [URL]http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/06/news_6123821.html[/URL]
"Today, MTV's advance schedule began running a listing for MTV Presents: The Next Generation Xbox Revealed, the special that will see the Xbox 360 shown to the public for the first time. Besides saying how the show will feature "tours of the design labs Interviews with the designers Behind-the-scenes and inside scoop" the listing promises to feature "trailers of the newest games that are due out in November for the new Xbox" (emphasis added).
The listing appears to cement suspicions that the next Xbox will launch on the fourth anniversary of the original Xbox's release in mid-November 2001. However, despite the clear wording of the MTV listing, Microsoft representatives said they could not comment on it for the time being."
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