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Sun 07/12/03 at 18:09
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Did anyone see this last night? Just interested in what people make of it all, I found it to be really educational and thought provoking. Haven't really got time to discuss it in great lengths at the minute, but some of the stats were really quite shocking, just want to know what people thought of it.
Mon 08/12/03 at 20:46
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Gun related deaths each year;

Germany 381 (1 in 214,971)
France 255 (1 in 232,563)
Canada 155 (1 in 204,647)
United Kingdom 68 (1 in 868,239)
Australia 65 (1 in 307,355)
Japan 39 (1 in 3,274,564)
United States of America 11,127 (1 in 26,210)
Mon 08/12/03 at 20:18
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I loved it. I'm a Michael Moore fan anyway, but that film was a real eye-opener. Mainly to the general stupidity of American people (no offence 2 any1 here whose american!). i patricularly liked the interview with Marilyn Manson, especially with all the controversy around him, but he seems like a completly down-2-earth, level headed guy in that film. 4 example:

Michael Moore: (words 2 the effects of:) "What would u say 2 those columbine students if they were here right now?"

Manson: "I wouldnt say a single word. id listen 2 wot they had 2 say, and thats wot no1 did".

underneath the whole anti-christ, sattanist image, he's a total genius. plus the south park stylee history of america, that woz cool!
Sun 07/12/03 at 23:53
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Part of it might be down to how competitive the american system is.

Most of it has to be the culture of fear (as illustrated by the film) though.
Sun 07/12/03 at 23:09
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Around 284 million US citizens so about 26,000 people to one gun related death. 59 million UK citizens so 870,000 people to one gun related death. 20 million Australian citizens so 308,000 people to one gun related crime.

I thought Bowling For Columbine was excellent. It does make you think about America and gun crime. They blame video games, movies , music etc for gun violence, yet in Britain we are subject to the same as what the US has and were no were near as bad. I know the UK has a less available gun market, as you can't walk into a Bank and get a gun with a new bank account. But think of Canada and its 7 million guns compared to its 32 million population, thats less than 1 in 5 people owning a gun, I know some may own 2 or more so the actual figure could be 1 in 8. But the number of guns to the number of gun deaths is pretty amazing, and does beg the question about gun death in the US.
Sun 07/12/03 at 21:54
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I saw it in the cinema and bought it on Video upon release.

Tut you are all so "out of date" :D
Sun 07/12/03 at 21:08
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Will be repeated soon, I wouldnt worry.
Sun 07/12/03 at 20:49
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Gah! Thought it was on tonight. *mumble*
Sun 07/12/03 at 20:39
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Wasn't much of a "movie" but was still good.
Sun 07/12/03 at 20:18
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KR wrote:
> kittworld wrote:
> So in America within 3 days there will have been more deaths
> involving guns than in the UK for a whole year.
>
> Yes but doesn't the USA have about 200 million more people then
> Britain?

68 x 3.3 (60 million in UK right?) = 224.4

So if you took the number of people into account (65 in Australia but how many live there?) America still leads with almost 11,000.
Sun 07/12/03 at 20:00
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It was actually very interesting. Deserved the oscar.

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