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Fri 28/11/03 at 23:02
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I'm generally all for it, having been almost knocked off my bike by people driving and using mobiles on a number of occasions.

But is there really any point?

You can't hold the phone in your hand and dial, but you can have it in a cradle on the dashboard and dial. Does that really make any difference?

Personally, if someone is going to use a mobile, I'd rather a driver had both hands on the wheel and was dialling with their thumb than only having one hand on the wheel.

Aside from that, is using a mobile any worse than any other action which distracts a driver, such as changing a CD/tape or fiddling with the volume or radio tuner?

Or eating a choccy bar/drinking a can of Coke?

Some say that talking on a mobile can be distracting even with a hands-free kit, but is it any different to talking to a passenger in the car?

On the one hand I don't think the law goes far enough, but on the other hand I don't see how you can legislate against mobile use unless you do the same for a multitude of other things that can distract a driver just as much.
Tue 02/12/03 at 13:08
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I was on the phone for about 10 minutes the other day while driving to UNI. Personally, i find it quite easy to drive and talk at the same time with my phone in my hand. Although changing gears can be a problem, but its fine on the motorway.

I wouldnt make a call while driving as that would mean taking my eyes off the road but i'm fine with answering calls.

Oh, and apparently its still legal to use two way radio's while driving? So surely you can just keep one of those in your car and *if* you get pulled over using your phone just whip out the radio.
Tue 02/12/03 at 13:02
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> As someone who doesn;t drive and does not own a mobile phone, I merely
> sit here and mock all those that this change of legislation
> encompasses.


*keyword* sit

*while i drive away*
Sat 29/11/03 at 23:24
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> As someone who doesn;t drive and does not own a mobile phone, I merely
> sit here and mock all those that this change of legislation
> encompasses.
>
>
> HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA!

I do not drive but I own a mobile and often found while my parents are driving and the phone goes off it is either lumped into my lap or answered by them.
Sat 29/11/03 at 15:38
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WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> I don't see how you can legislate against mobile use
> unless you do the same for a multitude of other things that can
> distract a driver just as much.

(Aside from the way the law does cover other things) it's better to only make some dangerous things illegal than to make none of them illegal, right?


Looking at the dialling with one hand option, well, it does seem a bit dangerous, I think. You're concentrating on the screen and buttons, not the road.
Oh well.

Even if the law doesn't really create new powers, I should think it'd be easier to 'get' people under this system than the old vaguer rules. Driving badly is subjective, holding a phone isn't.

Plus it'll remind people that it's illegal, keep them too afraid to do it.


So maybe it's not perfect law, but it's better than it was.
Sat 29/11/03 at 15:17
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Well, this legislation affects the police too. We are now not able to use our radios while driving our police cars; we too have hands free kits.
Sat 29/11/03 at 15:15
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pb wrote:
> The police can pretty much have you for anything that looks like it
> would endanger other people. Hopefully that should include flicking
> cigerette butts out the window as well.

That would be littering.
Sat 29/11/03 at 12:08
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As someone who doesn;t drive and does not own a mobile phone, I merely sit here and mock all those that this change of legislation encompasses.


HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA!
Sat 29/11/03 at 11:25
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Fat lot of use if there is no place to pullover in.
Sat 29/11/03 at 10:26
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Socks D Snake wrote:
> Does that mean you can't call the police if there's an accident if you
> haven't got a hands free kit?
> Get fined for helping the police?

You would pull over and then use the phone.
Sat 29/11/03 at 09:47
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Does that mean you can't call the police if there's an accident if you haven't got a hands free kit?
Get fined for helping the police?

And how would radios get their traffic info if people coud not text of phone them?

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