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"New Respect for Benjamin Zepheniah"

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Thu 27/11/03 at 12:44
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"twothousandandtits"
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The poet who has turned down an OBE, saying he has spent his life trying to fight empire, and he writes poems for people not honours.

Go on my son!
Thu 27/11/03 at 14:09
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"Lisan al-Gaib"
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> He turned it down because the empire is all about slavery....
> maaaaan.

http://www.umd.umich.edu/casl/hum/eng/ (space) classes/434/charweb/syer1.htm

A History of Jamaican Slavery.

He's Jamaican, his ancestors were Jamaican, the British used Jamaican slaves.

I really don't see the problem. His ideals, his beliefs.
Thu 27/11/03 at 14:07
"Darth Vader 3442321"
Posts: 4,031
If he finds the concept and history of British Empire so abhorent, why does he live in Britain?
Thu 27/11/03 at 14:06
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"twothousandandtits"
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"His racially motivated ignorance"

Is what you said. To me, all that says is that his ignorance is motivated by his race.
Thu 27/11/03 at 14:04
"Darkness, always"
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I didn't say he was motivated FOR ignorance, he is motivated because of it.
Thu 27/11/03 at 14:02
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"twothousandandtits"
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But surely there can't be any motivation for ignorance, unless you get into wanting to be ignorant.
Thu 27/11/03 at 14:01
"Darkness, always"
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The man has refused to accept the OBE on the basis that his "forefathers" were abused as slaves in the former British Empire... if that isn't ignorance of a racial nature, I don't know what is.
Thu 27/11/03 at 14:00
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"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
The sagacious one wrote:
> It's akin to saying "I'll never drive a German made car because
> they killed my Grandad in the war".

It's akin to saying "I'll never drive a Nazi made car because I don't agree with that philosophy".

And how the hell can you have racially motivated ignorance?
Thu 27/11/03 at 13:47
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Blank wrote:
> I still don't see your problem. He turned it down because he doesn't
> like the connotations associated with the British Empire, and doesn't
> agree with the Queen or the government. Where's the problem?

His racially motivated ignorance.
Thu 27/11/03 at 13:43
"Darth Vader 3442321"
Posts: 4,031
Insane Bartender wrote:
> I'm specifically irritated at his racially motivated comments
> regarding the history of slavery

It's akin to saying "I'll never drive a German made car because they killed my Grandad in the war".
Thu 27/11/03 at 13:26
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"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
I still don't see your problem. He turned it down because he doesn't like the connotations associated with the British Empire, and doesn't agree with the Queen or the government. Where's the problem?

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