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Mon 10/11/03 at 20:02
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Abstract

Within thirty years, we will have the technological means to create superhuman intelligence. Shortly after, the human era will be ended.

Is such progress avoidable? If not to be avoided, can events be guided so that we may survive? These questions are investigated. Some possible answers (and some further dangers) are presented.

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http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~phoenix/vinge/vinge-sing.html
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A paper on the birth of AI and the possibilities it presents. I've stuck this link on here before, but what with all the matrix story hype, I thought some people might wanna read.

Interesting stuff!

For those of you who find reading boring, here is another link :

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http://www.trevorvanmeter.com/flyguy/
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Mon 10/11/03 at 23:03
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ßora† SagdiyeV wrote:
If we
> were to advance our computers, both in processing power, memory and
> storage, to the stage where we had something remotely like the human
> brain, could we then conceivably create intelligence?

Yes potentially, but it goes without saying that by the time we reach this stage I will very very old in my coffin. I just think that computer architecture isn't suited to the concept of true AI... it would be better to fully understand and map the human brain and "alter" that instead.
Tue 11/11/03 at 09:35
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Except there is nothing to gain by creating true intelligence. you don't want to recreate the brain and put it in something because it will have a life of it's own.

What do we develop false AI's for ? To do what we want them to, not to give them a choice.
Tue 11/11/03 at 12:37
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The creation of a true AI indicates a powerful understanding of 'human' intelligence that we simply do not have today. The day that we can create such a thing tells us that we understand ourselves well enough that we an draw an accurate model of what we are. The uses for such a creation are limitless, for the purposes of teaching us yet more about our own behaviour, as well as as a tool to educate others on what we've already learned.

However, at the point where AI becomes simply I, what is it that we've really created? Surely it would verge closer to a 'human' intelligence than anythiong else, and (for the fact that it will have been created by humans if nothing else) will inherit all the flaws that that implies.

Or maybe not? Perhaps the only effective way to create such a thing artificially is to improve upon it. What then? It goes back to a comprehensive understanding of the secrets of the human brain, and an AI could go on to teach us more than we are prepared to learn. Knowledge is power, and power corrupts. Ultimate power, as I'm sure you know, corrupts ultimately. Intricate information on how to manipulate intelligent beings?

Suits you sir.

But who knows, maybe when the time comes we'll be responsible enough to handle whatever we creat with the care and attention it deserves. I won't hold my breath.
Tue 11/11/03 at 12:47
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But you've gotta think, are we just programmed forms of intelligence? Are our brains set to learn and appreciate certain facts and tasks? Was there forms before us that 'programmed' us to work the way we do?

*runs out before mob appears*
Tue 11/11/03 at 12:57
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Dunno about these forms, but yes, we are essentially programs running in our brain. It's just that society is ignorant of this fact.

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