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"The fireman have been "stiffed""

Get this, remember the strike? Well it ended with an agreement of 16%.

The otherday, all fireman recieved letters saying "you can have 3.3% or nothing" BLOODY CHEEKY.

Especially as they were assured they would get 16% (the reason the strike stopped)

Now they get 3.3% ovcewr the next two years.

And to all the people thinking atleast they get 3.3%, this includes the standard 4% reccomended from the bank of England, now there getting 0.7% LESS than what they would of got with no strike.

I say STRIKE AGAIN!

A perfect example of how bent our goverment is.

Heh. And I was going to join the Fire service before all this lark - at the wage they were on then. It wasn't too bad, I would have been satisfied.

Are these the same firemen that new what the wage was when they joined the service? And then complained about it? Oh.

Mr Pink wrote:
> Well, since the firemen were known to turn up when lives where at
> stake, the goverment caused the strike by neglecting pay issues and
> if there was another strike it would be their fault for LYING and
> BETRAYING the fire service.

Ahahahaha. Betraying the fire service indeed.
You know how much action the fire service get in my town in the average year? About 50 school fire alarms. That's pretty much it.

"A bins on fire in town!"
Nee naw nee naw.

No. The union caused the strikes by not properly representing their members. The union caused the strikes by trying to blame the government for their own incompetency. The union caused the strikes by ralying public opinion using claims like "no price on a life" - regardless of the resulting implication that firefighters are in fact mercenaries rather than life-savers - to then use the people to pressure the government into making radical changes which the union should have responsibly sponsored over the past 15-25 years, rather than sitting on their backsides doing nothing. The union caused further strikes by then throwing out any worthwhile proposal by the government because they belatedly realised that the "radical changes" and "modernisation of the service" inevitably meant job cuts.

The unions are a bunch of moronic plebs, and I've told them as much myself. Expecting to rally public opinion into DEMANDING a 20% plus IMMEDIATE payrise out of the government? Attempting to do so by putting lives in danger (terrorism anyone?)? Flat payscales nationwide paying those working up north equal wages to those down south (I would have personally moved to Hull and joined the service myself if that had happened)?

Absolute blithering idiots.

Bane wrote:
> I can only suggest that their payrise now incorporates the enormous
> cost to the government of covering the fire service while they were
> stood in picket lines eating sandwiches, blissfully ignoring the
> multitude of potentially lethal fires burning in random spots across
> the country.

Well, since the firemen were known to turn up when lives where at stake, the goverment caused the strike by neglecting pay issues and if there was another strike it would be their fault for LYING and BETRAYING the fire service.

I can only suggest that their payrise now incorporates the enormous cost to the government of covering the fire service while they were stood in picket lines eating sandwiches, blissfully ignoring the multitude of potentially lethal fires burning in random spots across the country.

Yes, they knew what they were getting into, but when they got into it they were on fair pay, but due to not keeping up with pay rises they've slipped.

I support thier strike.

I remember when they were on strike, they were all sat outside the station and every time people drove past they sounded their horn.

heh.

Actually, they're getting 2 3.5% rises in the next 2 years.

Therefore getting 7.1%, not the 7% they wanted.

of course, a strike is definitely recommended. especially when my house is burning down and firefighters are squabbling over even MORE pay when they could be doing what they signed up for in the beginning, knowing full well what they were in for, saving me.