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Damned by dreams that emasculate
Whichever thoughts grow fond
A ritual that once grew great
Before the broken bonds
Elevated past darkened doubt
Tattooed bystreet-light fraud
The taxman knocks, reasons without
Civilian levy duly stored
Forgetting sinful syntax
Forging sentences of stealth
Intricately evading tax
And procuring piles of wealth.
To save their seats politicians lie
With bribes they don’t resent
With starving hunger babies cry
Whilst income tax is sadly spent
Witness wily officials in their jaguars
Diamonds nested in wife’s ears
Then see taxpayers in economy cars
They saved for years and years
Will no one break the circle of lies
And do the whole country a favour
Recall the day democracy died
The birthday of New Labour
Whichever thoughts grow fond
A ritual that once grew great
Before the broken bonds
Elevated past darkened doubt
Tattooed bystreet-light fraud
The taxman knocks, reasons without
Civilian levy duly stored
Forgetting sinful syntax
Forging sentences of stealth
Intricately evading tax
And procuring piles of wealth.
To save their seats politicians lie
With bribes they don’t resent
With starving hunger babies cry
Whilst income tax is sadly spent
Witness wily officials in their jaguars
Diamonds nested in wife’s ears
Then see taxpayers in economy cars
They saved for years and years
Will no one break the circle of lies
And do the whole country a favour
Recall the day democracy died
The birthday of New Labour
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Just noticed my Gandhi spelling mistake there.
Goatboy wrote:
> *shrugs*
> Wasn't trying to counterpoint any of your post, just had a quick
> rummage for a site that wasn't written by an Indian political view.
> My understanding goes little beyond the Ghandi movie
I guessed so, I just wanted to make it clear I was giving a roughly British orientated point of view minus a few things. I actually wouldn't mind seeing the Ghandi movie just out of interest but I don't really want to pay full price - I remember the re-release of it on DVD back when I was at Woolworths a few years ago and it was still about £20 then.
> *shrugs*
> Wasn't trying to counterpoint any of your post, just had a quick
> rummage for a site that wasn't written by an Indian political view.
> My understanding goes little beyond the Ghandi movie
I guessed so, I just wanted to make it clear I was giving a roughly British orientated point of view minus a few things. I actually wouldn't mind seeing the Ghandi movie just out of interest but I don't really want to pay full price - I remember the re-release of it on DVD back when I was at Woolworths a few years ago and it was still about £20 then.
unknown kernel wrote:
> It wasn't a war of independence, it was a mutiny, and a mutiny over
> religious insensitivity rather than anti-imperial feeling.
> Nationalism didn't play any part in it. Some local rulers joined in
> because they were unhappy at the deal they were getting within the
> colony, not because they wanted to leave it altogether. Just so you
> know.
Many sources do call it the first war of independence actually, depends on your source and it's bias. The local rulers joined in because the British had taken most of their power. I don't know about you, but I'd say there's going to be an awful lot of anti-imperial feeling when a white man is telling Indians their religion doesn't matter and they should shut up and do as they are ordered.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF- 8&q=indian+war+of+independence+1857&spell=1
All those call it a war of independence, the British called it a mutiny for political reasons - essentially kepy the folks at home thinking it was a minor problem instead of the first real challenge to the colonial authority. Equally, sources biased towards India called it a war of independence because it gave others hope that eventually India would be free.
> It wasn't a war of independence, it was a mutiny, and a mutiny over
> religious insensitivity rather than anti-imperial feeling.
> Nationalism didn't play any part in it. Some local rulers joined in
> because they were unhappy at the deal they were getting within the
> colony, not because they wanted to leave it altogether. Just so you
> know.
Many sources do call it the first war of independence actually, depends on your source and it's bias. The local rulers joined in because the British had taken most of their power. I don't know about you, but I'd say there's going to be an awful lot of anti-imperial feeling when a white man is telling Indians their religion doesn't matter and they should shut up and do as they are ordered.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF- 8&q=indian+war+of+independence+1857&spell=1
All those call it a war of independence, the British called it a mutiny for political reasons - essentially kepy the folks at home thinking it was a minor problem instead of the first real challenge to the colonial authority. Equally, sources biased towards India called it a war of independence because it gave others hope that eventually India would be free.
Bane wrote:
> Knights, however, were soldiers, and as soldiers swore an allegiance
> to the head of state, not to the people populating it.
T'would be good being a knight.
You could have a white feather stuck permanantly in your helmet.
You could ride from Glouster to Coventry on your horse.
You could deal swift death to gangs of brigands hiding in dank grottos and seize their booty.
Then sell it for a neat profit to chubby merchants on the outskirts of Norwich.
> Knights, however, were soldiers, and as soldiers swore an allegiance
> to the head of state, not to the people populating it.
T'would be good being a knight.
You could have a white feather stuck permanantly in your helmet.
You could ride from Glouster to Coventry on your horse.
You could deal swift death to gangs of brigands hiding in dank grottos and seize their booty.
Then sell it for a neat profit to chubby merchants on the outskirts of Norwich.
Get yer own post you commie b*stard Skarra! lol
Belldandy wrote:
> I think it's a mistake to generalise - someone has quoted India, but
> the first Indian War of Independence in (I think) 1857
It wasn't a war of independence, it was a mutiny, and a mutiny over religious insensitivity rather than anti-imperial feeling. Nationalism didn't play any part in it. Some local rulers joined in because they were unhappy at the deal they were getting within the colony, not because they wanted to leave it altogether. Just so you know.
> I think it's a mistake to generalise - someone has quoted India, but
> the first Indian War of Independence in (I think) 1857
It wasn't a war of independence, it was a mutiny, and a mutiny over religious insensitivity rather than anti-imperial feeling. Nationalism didn't play any part in it. Some local rulers joined in because they were unhappy at the deal they were getting within the colony, not because they wanted to leave it altogether. Just so you know.
I believe Churchill promised, through gritted teeth, Indian independence if they helped us during WWII with troops and such like.
*shrugs*
Wasn't trying to counterpoint any of your post, just had a quick rummage for a site that wasn't written by an Indian political view.
My understanding goes little beyond the Ghandi movie
Wasn't trying to counterpoint any of your post, just had a quick rummage for a site that wasn't written by an Indian political view.
My understanding goes little beyond the Ghandi movie
Goatboy wrote:
> A brief history of the Independance of India:
>
> http://web.cocc.edu/cagatucci/classes/hum210/tml/
> indiatml/indiatml4.htm
From a certain perspective yes, I was just outlining the rough British perspective as I understood it.
> A brief history of the Independance of India:
>
> http://web.cocc.edu/cagatucci/classes/hum210/tml/
> indiatml/indiatml4.htm
From a certain perspective yes, I was just outlining the rough British perspective as I understood it.
A brief history of the Independance of India:
http://web.cocc.edu/cagatucci/classes/hum210/tml/ indiatml/indiatml4.htm
http://web.cocc.edu/cagatucci/classes/hum210/tml/ indiatml/indiatml4.htm
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