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Sat 03/03/01 at 20:13
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Although DVD is most excellent there is a few things that bother me about the format. Firstly when i first heard of DVD there was the saying of "Entire series on 1 DVD", but the majority of TV series that have been put on DVD are 2,3 or more DVD`s and i`m just wondering if this is right?
As a complete Tech dumby in this area i know nothing of what the actual space there is on a DVD wether it be a Standard one or a dual play one.
Can a actual series (about 12 half hour episodes say) be put on a dual play DVD?
What is the running time of a dual play DVD.....how many hours can be put on it?.
I just get that old feeling that companies out there are putting `some` series on more DVD`s to make more money, granted they could put lots of `extra`s` on.
Don`t get me wrong i love DVD`s and DVD`s that are more than one disc, my Favourite at the moment is Gladiator, which was worth every penny of the 20 quid i bought it for, a excellent film and extras that are actual useful, enjoyable and interesting, and make the whole package complete.
I`m looking forward to the day when the Star Trek serie`s (the original, TNG, Voyager and DS9) are put on DVD, but will the average joe public be conned by lots of DVD`s when the episodes could be packed up on a lesser amount.
Techy people please enlighten me:)

Sun 04/03/01 at 11:49
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I think it's an individual company thing. Some companies want to get the best picture and sound so they go for a lower level of compression, which means that the disc will be full up with 3 hours worth of material. Others want to add extras and other language soundtracks, again taking up more room on the disc and allowing less for the actual series itself.

I think the best format is to provide a couple of discs but charge as little as possible, but it's hard to weigh up the price against the quality to get exactly what the customer wants.
Sun 04/03/01 at 09:01
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A dual layer DVD can hold about 9.4Gb of information. The MPEG layer 2 compression used reduces the video to between around 300 and 1000k per second (depending on the quality of the original recording and, therefore, the extent to which it can be compressed without losing any noticeable quality, although even the lowest would still beat VHS by some marjin).

Doing the maths gives a time span of between just under 3 hours and just over 9 hours per side.

A TV series wouldn't be as high a quality of recording as a film so the compression could be much greater and still reproduce the original video (almost) perfectly. Even halfway would give about 6 hours of video (less the menu programs, graphics, etc...).

Hope this is of some interest.

On another note, the BBC are rubbish with DVDs. I say this because I found out something about the US version of Blackadder (which will also be available in a box set with all 4 series and the Back and Forth special - but no Christmas Carol?). On the UK version you only get the episodes.

However the US versions are being produced by the company which distributed it in America (not by the BBC, just with their permission) and, as such, apparently will feature extras such as outtakes (ironically probably from the BBCs Aunties Bloomers!), cast interviews, a photo gallery and, for some reason, a karioke function(?).

I find this infuriating. Actually I don't care - I'll just get the region 1 versions because I can. But what about all those loyal Blackadder fans who are being short changed by the BBCs cheapness?
Sat 03/03/01 at 20:13
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Although DVD is most excellent there is a few things that bother me about the format. Firstly when i first heard of DVD there was the saying of "Entire series on 1 DVD", but the majority of TV series that have been put on DVD are 2,3 or more DVD`s and i`m just wondering if this is right?
As a complete Tech dumby in this area i know nothing of what the actual space there is on a DVD wether it be a Standard one or a dual play one.
Can a actual series (about 12 half hour episodes say) be put on a dual play DVD?
What is the running time of a dual play DVD.....how many hours can be put on it?.
I just get that old feeling that companies out there are putting `some` series on more DVD`s to make more money, granted they could put lots of `extra`s` on.
Don`t get me wrong i love DVD`s and DVD`s that are more than one disc, my Favourite at the moment is Gladiator, which was worth every penny of the 20 quid i bought it for, a excellent film and extras that are actual useful, enjoyable and interesting, and make the whole package complete.
I`m looking forward to the day when the Star Trek serie`s (the original, TNG, Voyager and DS9) are put on DVD, but will the average joe public be conned by lots of DVD`s when the episodes could be packed up on a lesser amount.
Techy people please enlighten me:)

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