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Number one: You all take yourself far too seriously.
A few examples recently. Firstly, my post about Hedfix. That was posted just to contribute with facts towards this post. Before I carry on, I apologise to Hedfix: None of that was meant and it's not entirely you being sad that makes you post so much, and I can see that you just have an entirely different lifestyle to me. None of what I said I meant - well, yeah, I do think you spend a little too long on here - but then that's my opinion, and ifyou like this place so much, don't ever stop because of what people say, stop because of how much enjoyment you get from this place. It's your life and never even take notice of anyone who tries to change you.
But when I posted a certain topic, ONE person picked up the important factor: that thread was intended as a joke. It wasn't a hidden joke that I revealed later - the whole style of that post was comical. I hinted that maybe Hedfix was a piece of computer software. If someone said that about me, I wouldn't do much more than smile. Congratulations to Ineedsleep, the only person who visited that thread who can actually spot jokes and keep level-headed. The rest of you all started rabbiting on like your sweaty little lives depended on it. Desperate to have your say, try and throw in a few insults at me at times. If I had seen this about me - I would laugh and joke about it. If I saw this about someone else - I would laugh and joke about it.
But you lot are all either soo stuck-up or you can't see jokes. But seriously - take a chill pill.
Number Two: You all think more of yourselves than there actually is
In the above thread, it confirmed another thought of mine - you all seem to think that you are all important. Mr. Unknown kernel, I'm looking at you.
During that thread, and elsewhere, you have pointed out my MC Battling thread. Pointed it out in a way that mocks it. You have to air your opinion and think it matters as well. I don't give a sod about you or what you say, or what you think. But, carrying on..
Number Two-B: Your all totally hypocritical
You gave your opinion, and you hate my thread, you find it amusing.
Well, Rap is a part of black culture, and it's something I've grown up with, it's a part of life for me. I feel I have a small flair for it, and whilst not confident enough to publicise myself into the real world, I thought I'd come on here, and mess around with a few other people who might want to try their hand at it. We're not seriously gonna become rap superstars - it's called having a bit of fun.
Also, secondly, it's my taste. You insulting that thread is about as retarded in me saying Xbox is for geeks and Gamecube for colourful little Haribo-filled kids. You can all come on and discuss what guitars you like and put out guitar chords and stuff, and I have no problem with that, if it interests you then by all means try and share your interest. So why do you and a few others (Sexstorm, Blank maybe) insist on still making a fuss over how you feel about it. Why does your opinion veen matter? Okay, I'm all for free speech, but that's not an opinion - it's a moan. An opinion is saying which car you prefer out of two or how you feel about a subject like war or racism - not posting sad little pops at things that you don't like not because they suck but because you can't feel them, you don't understand them. And for that reason, because of who you are, you feel it neccesary to try and make fun. Well stop it. Grow up.
Number Three: You are all two-faced.
I've noticed that most of you can be the nicest so and sos around. Goatboy, the angriest person I know, sometimes shows his soft side and smiles on rare occasions. Yet we've recently seen him threaten beat up the hacker person, with real threats. I can actually see his point there, but that's just a lead-in for the debate.
The main thing is that every user can be nice, can be happy, can be a perfectly kind and friendly person.
Yet when, say, a newbie or a lesser respected Regular emerges into a thread and posts something you disagree with, you don't simply posty your opinion and debate it - instead, you juist decide to insult the person, either by replying in a patronising way and throwing in a few insults or by just taking a pure crack at the person mentioned.
Why?
If everyone here spoke to Smerc the way you speak to Lil Ginge, Smerc'd probably like it here and instead of spamming and annoying you all he'd probably post properly, but because you all take such a bad attitude with you when you meet new people, you scare most people away, so either they develop a bad taste for the forums, or, like Smerc/Shaneo, they decide to come back and annoy you.
Be nice. Pretend everyone is just the same. Stop acting like hard men/total knobs around some people.
If you amended the things I've said, then these forums would be as good as they were a year and a half ago.
And don't point out that most arguments here are based around one person. It's called an example.
A few examples recently. Firstly, my post about Hedfix. That was posted just to contribute with facts towards this post. Before I carry on, I apologise to Hedfix: None of that was meant and it's not entirely you being sad that makes you post so much, and I can see that you just have an entirely different lifestyle to me. None of what I said I meant - well, yeah, I do think you spend a little too long on here - but then that's my opinion, and ifyou like this place so much, don't ever stop because of what people say, stop because of how much enjoyment you get from this place. It's your life and never even take notice of anyone who tries to change you.
But when I posted a certain topic, ONE person picked up the important factor: that thread was intended as a joke. It wasn't a hidden joke that I revealed later - the whole style of that post was comical. I hinted that maybe Hedfix was a piece of computer software. If someone said that about me, I wouldn't do much more than smile. Congratulations to Ineedsleep, the only person who visited that thread who can actually spot jokes and keep level-headed. The rest of you all started rabbiting on like your sweaty little lives depended on it. Desperate to have your say, try and throw in a few insults at me at times. If I had seen this about me - I would laugh and joke about it. If I saw this about someone else - I would laugh and joke about it.
But you lot are all either soo stuck-up or you can't see jokes. But seriously - take a chill pill.
Number Two: You all think more of yourselves than there actually is
In the above thread, it confirmed another thought of mine - you all seem to think that you are all important. Mr. Unknown kernel, I'm looking at you.
During that thread, and elsewhere, you have pointed out my MC Battling thread. Pointed it out in a way that mocks it. You have to air your opinion and think it matters as well. I don't give a sod about you or what you say, or what you think. But, carrying on..
Number Two-B: Your all totally hypocritical
You gave your opinion, and you hate my thread, you find it amusing.
Well, Rap is a part of black culture, and it's something I've grown up with, it's a part of life for me. I feel I have a small flair for it, and whilst not confident enough to publicise myself into the real world, I thought I'd come on here, and mess around with a few other people who might want to try their hand at it. We're not seriously gonna become rap superstars - it's called having a bit of fun.
Also, secondly, it's my taste. You insulting that thread is about as retarded in me saying Xbox is for geeks and Gamecube for colourful little Haribo-filled kids. You can all come on and discuss what guitars you like and put out guitar chords and stuff, and I have no problem with that, if it interests you then by all means try and share your interest. So why do you and a few others (Sexstorm, Blank maybe) insist on still making a fuss over how you feel about it. Why does your opinion veen matter? Okay, I'm all for free speech, but that's not an opinion - it's a moan. An opinion is saying which car you prefer out of two or how you feel about a subject like war or racism - not posting sad little pops at things that you don't like not because they suck but because you can't feel them, you don't understand them. And for that reason, because of who you are, you feel it neccesary to try and make fun. Well stop it. Grow up.
Number Three: You are all two-faced.
I've noticed that most of you can be the nicest so and sos around. Goatboy, the angriest person I know, sometimes shows his soft side and smiles on rare occasions. Yet we've recently seen him threaten beat up the hacker person, with real threats. I can actually see his point there, but that's just a lead-in for the debate.
The main thing is that every user can be nice, can be happy, can be a perfectly kind and friendly person.
Yet when, say, a newbie or a lesser respected Regular emerges into a thread and posts something you disagree with, you don't simply posty your opinion and debate it - instead, you juist decide to insult the person, either by replying in a patronising way and throwing in a few insults or by just taking a pure crack at the person mentioned.
Why?
If everyone here spoke to Smerc the way you speak to Lil Ginge, Smerc'd probably like it here and instead of spamming and annoying you all he'd probably post properly, but because you all take such a bad attitude with you when you meet new people, you scare most people away, so either they develop a bad taste for the forums, or, like Smerc/Shaneo, they decide to come back and annoy you.
Be nice. Pretend everyone is just the same. Stop acting like hard men/total knobs around some people.
If you amended the things I've said, then these forums would be as good as they were a year and a half ago.
And don't point out that most arguments here are based around one person. It's called an example.
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Lil Ginge wrote:
> I think I just tried to stick it out and gain the respect
Keep trying luv :D
Only ribbing ya.
I can't really remember seeing you about here as a noob. And I can't remember much of my time either, which is why I think it was fine.
> I think I just tried to stick it out and gain the respect
Keep trying luv :D
Only ribbing ya.
I can't really remember seeing you about here as a noob. And I can't remember much of my time either, which is why I think it was fine.
I was never a newbie.
My life as a n00b was alright. There was a few sheepshaggers that made it hard, but it was only a few encounters. I think all n00bs get picked on though, as a sort of inniciation. (sp?)
English_Bloke wrote:
> My life as a newbie was fine.
>
> Ah mammary’s.
Mine was a bit mixed,
The people that thought others were being nice because I am a ladeeee made it hard. Also, the regular mob of *literary geniuses* like memo made things very hard as what ever I said was completely cained - untill I told memo to turn nice, he's is also ginger and such like and now we are like pee's and carrots *sniggers*
I think I just tried to stick it out and gain the respect by not completely spamming or being an idiot and taking revenge!!
There isnt as much a difference between how im treated now and the latter days of my reign as a raving noob!
> My life as a newbie was fine.
>
> Ah mammary’s.
Mine was a bit mixed,
The people that thought others were being nice because I am a ladeeee made it hard. Also, the regular mob of *literary geniuses* like memo made things very hard as what ever I said was completely cained - untill I told memo to turn nice, he's is also ginger and such like and now we are like pee's and carrots *sniggers*
I think I just tried to stick it out and gain the respect by not completely spamming or being an idiot and taking revenge!!
There isnt as much a difference between how im treated now and the latter days of my reign as a raving noob!
My life as a newbie was fine.
Ah mammary’s.
Ah mammary’s.
I am nice to newbies :)
I give them a chance atleast .. I am the one that say's nicely 'you will be left to hang if you text talk jimmai!'
..why??
Because my life as a newbie sucked like sour milk thats a month old *MEMORANDOM*
I give them a chance atleast .. I am the one that say's nicely 'you will be left to hang if you text talk jimmai!'
..why??
Because my life as a newbie sucked like sour milk thats a month old *MEMORANDOM*
Asher D wrote:
> Mr. Unknown kernel, I'm looking at you.
Hellooo!
OK, here is why I said what I did:
You posted a pretty nasty thread about Hedfix. True, you called him a computerised posting machine; but first you accused him of being a lying schoolboy, of having no friends, and of still living with his parents - in the sneering tone that only a guy who moved out of home last week could adopt. You can backtrack now and say that it was a joke, but I don't think it was. I think you tried to make yourself look big at somebody else's expense, and went in a huff when people pulled you up on it. You then had every chance to apologise but didn't, instead blaming it on everyone else for taking things too seriously.
Should I just have called you a bully and left it at that? Probably. But I didn't: partly becasue I thought you deserved it, partly because I wanted to see how you would react, partly because it was 5am and I'd had a really crappy night out, and partly because I'm a hypocrite and I thought it would be pretty funny. So I attacked you back and you didn't like it - you can say you don't care, but since you started this lip-wobbling thread you obviously do. Fair enough: I wouldn't like it, you didn't like it, Hedfix probably didn't like it. Abuse is easier to dish out than it is to take. I'm not going to do it again, maybe you shouldn't either.
Finally I think you might have misunderstood what I was trying to say in the other thread, and I cetainly went overboard. For that I apologise. I wasn't attacking a culture, I was attacking your right to judge who was cool and who wasn't.
> Mr. Unknown kernel, I'm looking at you.
Hellooo!
OK, here is why I said what I did:
You posted a pretty nasty thread about Hedfix. True, you called him a computerised posting machine; but first you accused him of being a lying schoolboy, of having no friends, and of still living with his parents - in the sneering tone that only a guy who moved out of home last week could adopt. You can backtrack now and say that it was a joke, but I don't think it was. I think you tried to make yourself look big at somebody else's expense, and went in a huff when people pulled you up on it. You then had every chance to apologise but didn't, instead blaming it on everyone else for taking things too seriously.
Should I just have called you a bully and left it at that? Probably. But I didn't: partly becasue I thought you deserved it, partly because I wanted to see how you would react, partly because it was 5am and I'd had a really crappy night out, and partly because I'm a hypocrite and I thought it would be pretty funny. So I attacked you back and you didn't like it - you can say you don't care, but since you started this lip-wobbling thread you obviously do. Fair enough: I wouldn't like it, you didn't like it, Hedfix probably didn't like it. Abuse is easier to dish out than it is to take. I'm not going to do it again, maybe you shouldn't either.
Finally I think you might have misunderstood what I was trying to say in the other thread, and I cetainly went overboard. For that I apologise. I wasn't attacking a culture, I was attacking your right to judge who was cool and who wasn't.
Yes, Asher-san. You know all. Please now teach us all about Wax on, Wax off...
As I've said before:
You should've used smilies. :)
You should've used smilies. :)
I agree with every point i nAsher's original post, and not just because he said so either.
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