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Remember the classics of your childhood? I do, Sonic, Toe Jam and Earl...European Club Soccer, most of them were on the Mega Drive but I love Street Fighter on my SNES. Nowadays there are a select few shops in which you can go back and look and even experience what you did all those years ago. But...we do have..
ROMS AND EMULATION
It may be illegal but it's fun and if they made the games and systems anymore then we wouldn't have to do it. I have just downloaded Toe Jam and Earl and Sonic 3D as well as Metroid, I have been playing in them all, I am on this level and sinking deep into the memory bank trying to remember how to get the missile launchers on Metroid, oh the guy gives them to you and you press select...yes! And you remember and It all comes back, I suppose in a way, ,(not trying to be rude) it is like an alhtsimers pill, if there is one, where you go 'back in time' and replay your favourite games, admittedly they don't quite compare with the graphics of today but the gameplay is there and better than ever. The fact that you dont have to stand in awe of the 'Shenmue' type graphics opens you mind up to the gameplay. It doesn't have ace graphics and then it goes into a cut-scene and you didn't think that such an old game would have a cut scene but they do and you stand in awe of that too!
Older games are ace and they are what made gaming what it is today, Although I am a Nintendo fan, Yamauchi has the right Idea, people don't want to buy a load of graphics they watch DVD's and Video's for that they want to control the person and it is the same to this very day, you do it on your phone or on the games on 'Open....' in Sky Digital. You have seen super graphics in a film but nowadays it is very 'Rare' to play such a good game and not have to worry about the graphics. I know I am going on but you can see it too I bet, what you wouldn't give to go back just 1 day and relive the excitement...But of course you can't...the tingles have gone and now the games don't seem as exciting, but the level was bigger than this and I am sure you could have permanent shields as well as the best missiles. You only have 1 childhood and you can only experience games like a child when you are a child....so if you are still young...ie. 11 or 12 or even if you have a brother or Sister that likes games don't stop them from enjoying themselves because enjoying gaming is what has kept the memories of Toe Jam and Earl and Sonic 1 and 2 in your head for so long. It may not be your time now and maybe like me you are too-old for the baby-ish games but remember your childhood with the games that were special to you....do you think we will ever have that again...people never complained about games beeing too chort or too cu-sceney because the gameplay was there in it's full glory...will we ever see even a sparkle of that again or have graphics and pixels taken it away....forever?
ROMS AND EMULATION
It may be illegal but it's fun and if they made the games and systems anymore then we wouldn't have to do it. I have just downloaded Toe Jam and Earl and Sonic 3D as well as Metroid, I have been playing in them all, I am on this level and sinking deep into the memory bank trying to remember how to get the missile launchers on Metroid, oh the guy gives them to you and you press select...yes! And you remember and It all comes back, I suppose in a way, ,(not trying to be rude) it is like an alhtsimers pill, if there is one, where you go 'back in time' and replay your favourite games, admittedly they don't quite compare with the graphics of today but the gameplay is there and better than ever. The fact that you dont have to stand in awe of the 'Shenmue' type graphics opens you mind up to the gameplay. It doesn't have ace graphics and then it goes into a cut-scene and you didn't think that such an old game would have a cut scene but they do and you stand in awe of that too!
Older games are ace and they are what made gaming what it is today, Although I am a Nintendo fan, Yamauchi has the right Idea, people don't want to buy a load of graphics they watch DVD's and Video's for that they want to control the person and it is the same to this very day, you do it on your phone or on the games on 'Open....' in Sky Digital. You have seen super graphics in a film but nowadays it is very 'Rare' to play such a good game and not have to worry about the graphics. I know I am going on but you can see it too I bet, what you wouldn't give to go back just 1 day and relive the excitement...But of course you can't...the tingles have gone and now the games don't seem as exciting, but the level was bigger than this and I am sure you could have permanent shields as well as the best missiles. You only have 1 childhood and you can only experience games like a child when you are a child....so if you are still young...ie. 11 or 12 or even if you have a brother or Sister that likes games don't stop them from enjoying themselves because enjoying gaming is what has kept the memories of Toe Jam and Earl and Sonic 1 and 2 in your head for so long. It may not be your time now and maybe like me you are too-old for the baby-ish games but remember your childhood with the games that were special to you....do you think we will ever have that again...people never complained about games beeing too chort or too cu-sceney because the gameplay was there in it's full glory...will we ever see even a sparkle of that again or have graphics and pixels taken it away....forever?
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Roms aren't just good enough.
Ild rather play the original on the system it was designed for such as Streetfighter 2 on the Snes, that game was meant to played with a Snes pad. Ive also found that the sound particularly suffers with most emulators! Although I like playinng megadrive games on emulation (my p133 can just handle it), and the games have fewer buttons! I like Sonic2 personally, I own the Saturn emulation (Original) anyway it just saves me having to take out and set up the Saturn every time I want to play retro games.
This week I are been mostly emulating Megadrive.
SNIPER wrote:
> Roms aren't worth it when the screen's they give aren't so good on a
> PC monitor, yeah they are more powerful, but i'd rather play Secret
> of Mana on a SNES.
Bringin us back to PC Games Vs. Console Games! :)
> Roms aren't worth it when the screen's they give aren't so good on a
> PC monitor, yeah they are more powerful, but i'd rather play Secret
> of Mana on a SNES.
Bringin us back to PC Games Vs. Console Games! :)
Roms aren't worth it when the screen's they give aren't so good on a PC monitor, yeah they are more powerful, but i'd rather play Secret of Mana on a SNES.
Some games are still officially owned by the writers, even if the company doesn't own the game anymore. Most (but not all) Spectrum games and quite a few C64 games are now free to use with no restrictions. The roms for these two machines are officially free to use too, but for Atari and Amiga computers are still copy protected.
The problem comes with copyright to tunes and graphics as seperate entities.
MAME is one example where most of the roms, if not all, are still under copyright and you 'should' only own them if you have the original arcade boards. But I can't see anyone having over 1000 arcade boards in their house and there are plenty of mame download sites that I could mention.
Still, the debate over older games and systems goes on. It would seem a shame if all of these were forgotton and disappear into the past, but I guess games companies might one day want to re-release the game on a new format.
The problem comes with copyright to tunes and graphics as seperate entities.
MAME is one example where most of the roms, if not all, are still under copyright and you 'should' only own them if you have the original arcade boards. But I can't see anyone having over 1000 arcade boards in their house and there are plenty of mame download sites that I could mention.
Still, the debate over older games and systems goes on. It would seem a shame if all of these were forgotton and disappear into the past, but I guess games companies might one day want to re-release the game on a new format.
It's only illegal if you don't already have in your possession/own the original cartridge or CD.
So, if I owned a copy of SSX Pro, and wished to use an emulator to run it on my PC instead of PS2, that is legal.
If I just wished to run it on my PC without the original disc, that would be illegal.
The law is very clear on this point.
Unfortunately for software developers, most gamers are very fuzzy on this point.
So, if I owned a copy of SSX Pro, and wished to use an emulator to run it on my PC instead of PS2, that is legal.
If I just wished to run it on my PC without the original disc, that would be illegal.
The law is very clear on this point.
Unfortunately for software developers, most gamers are very fuzzy on this point.
It is quite illegal, even Commodore 64 games! And don't believe that "24 hours" nonsense either...
Anyway, I completly support *most* emulation...
Anyway, I completly support *most* emulation...
Actually, it's not illegal- it just depends on the game!
To begin, v. old games haven't had their licences up dated, so can be copied- ie. Spectrum games.
I believe that relatively recent games (like the Mega Drive) should be allowed to be copied so long as your can't buy them any more. This means that companies do not lose money, and gamers get to experience great games.
Finally, new games are illegal to copy... but there is a big problem anyway. First, you won't find a fast enough computer to run a game for the DC, or any newer system, for a long time! In adddition, the pojnt of emulation is to enjoy games that are otherwise out of reach, and new games do not have that qualitys.
Keep playing
SonicRav
To begin, v. old games haven't had their licences up dated, so can be copied- ie. Spectrum games.
I believe that relatively recent games (like the Mega Drive) should be allowed to be copied so long as your can't buy them any more. This means that companies do not lose money, and gamers get to experience great games.
Finally, new games are illegal to copy... but there is a big problem anyway. First, you won't find a fast enough computer to run a game for the DC, or any newer system, for a long time! In adddition, the pojnt of emulation is to enjoy games that are otherwise out of reach, and new games do not have that qualitys.
Keep playing
SonicRav
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