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Go there and check the site out, it seems they are pretty confident in EA. Maybe EA will produce something a bit more pleasing than FIFA 2001 PS2, as they will certainly have the better Dev tools with Microsoft's machine!
Personally, I cannot wait for Bill's box of tricks. After feeling 'slightly' disappointed by Sega's announcements regarding the state of Dreamcast, I think the XBox will be a sound investment. If you just look at some of the early video sequences it's clear to see why they've over 200 developement teams working with them!
Online gaming will be lag free, and we may just see the first ever decent race controller in the form of Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback, or something similar - I'm fed up of paying £30 or £40 for a piece of plastic that merely rumbles!
XBox won't fail, although we don't know that much about it in terms of...well, we don't know much about it...and a £500million advertising spree cannot really deter people from buying the Box.
I think Sony has become scared - when it entered the market back in 1995 it was a risk. They've now got 90% of the (non-handheld) console market under their belt just five years on. I think Microsoft will 'do a Sony' but they won't mess up their launch, any of their games and their advertising - not that Sony have bad advertising as such - it's just I don't want to associate a next-gen console with a talking duck in a shirt!
Anyways, XBox has a year to deter people from getting PS2 - I think they'll make the big time...
Dan
Personally, I cannot wait for Bill's box of tricks. After feeling 'slightly' disappointed by Sega's announcements regarding the state of Dreamcast, I think the XBox will be a sound investment. If you just look at some of the early video sequences it's clear to see why they've over 200 developement teams working with them!
Online gaming will be lag free, and we may just see the first ever decent race controller in the form of Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback, or something similar - I'm fed up of paying £30 or £40 for a piece of plastic that merely rumbles!
XBox won't fail, although we don't know that much about it in terms of...well, we don't know much about it...and a £500million advertising spree cannot really deter people from buying the Box.
I think Sony has become scared - when it entered the market back in 1995 it was a risk. They've now got 90% of the (non-handheld) console market under their belt just five years on. I think Microsoft will 'do a Sony' but they won't mess up their launch, any of their games and their advertising - not that Sony have bad advertising as such - it's just I don't want to associate a next-gen console with a talking duck in a shirt!
Anyways, XBox has a year to deter people from getting PS2 - I think they'll make the big time...
Dan
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ERRRRRR... so u are saying that the xbox is the greatest console ever, and will be "the future"???
Just as the 3DO DOMINATED the market with it's futuristic set top box strategy, and the PS2 DOMINATES livving rooms now.
Have u seen xbox games (ie... more than a dozen demos)??? Have u played them? Even if they are brill, will one console completely obliterate the market, esp whan it is a late entry, and it has nothing really oevr the competition. (So it has better graphics, but the games are not a revolution in the same way Nintendos consoles revolutionise games- eg. Mario 3d!... mind u, not eve that is enough).
The Xbox will do well, but it will not be "the future" in any other way that the PS2 may revive set top boxes- it's simply progression!
SonicRav
Just as the 3DO DOMINATED the market with it's futuristic set top box strategy, and the PS2 DOMINATES livving rooms now.
Have u seen xbox games (ie... more than a dozen demos)??? Have u played them? Even if they are brill, will one console completely obliterate the market, esp whan it is a late entry, and it has nothing really oevr the competition. (So it has better graphics, but the games are not a revolution in the same way Nintendos consoles revolutionise games- eg. Mario 3d!... mind u, not eve that is enough).
The Xbox will do well, but it will not be "the future" in any other way that the PS2 may revive set top boxes- it's simply progression!
SonicRav
Wòókiee Møn§†€R wrote:
> Ooh, sensible discussion rather than aimless rants. We can always
> rely on the Grixter!
> It is £300.
So was PS1, but
> it still sold.
> It hasn't got that many games, and
> only
> a few are worth buying.
It was the same with the PS1.
> PS1 had Wipeout - it was the PS1's equivalent of SSX. The 'great'
> games only started appearing some time after European and US
> developers really 'got into' the machine.
> think that the
> PS2 has just PSX games with updated
> graphics.
The thing
> with the PS2 is that it is, to some extent, a compromise. It's
> different enough to be desirable (obviously not to all, but to
> many), and thus bring in thousands or millions of new fans. At the
> same time, it is familiar and 'safe' for existing customers of the
> PlayStation brand.
You can play your existing games, and apart
> from the analogue buttons, the controller is identical - immediately
> creating a familiar 'environment', and a safe upgrade path for
> existing PlayStation owners.
For new users, there is the
> enticement of some solid - if not astounding - PS2 games currently
> available, with the promise of much, much better to come in the not
> so distant future. Then there's the added attraction of the vast
> back-catalogue of PS1 games available to see them through until the
> (seemingly) excellent 2nd-gen PS2 games start to appear.
And of
> course, you have a perfectly respectable DVD player in there,
> too.
I don't really think you can go far wrong if you buy a PS2,
> unless you are a die-hard fan of another format. But even if you
> are
But then I would say that, wouldn't I? :-)
Sure, there
> may be better technology on the horizon, but that is *always* the
> case. Computer technology moves at such a rate these days that any
> machine you buy will be out of date by the time you get it home.
> Regardless of when it will or won't be available, the PS3 specs
> already make the Xbox out of date; will it stop any of us buying an
> Xbox if we *really* like it? Nope!
And finally... ignore any
> claims of 'future-proof' because there is no such thing;
> 'future-tolerant' is about as close as you can get.
>
> Views?
That's mine!
Hmmmm...
Well put.
Also, all the stuff about familiar environments, I'd never thought about really. It's true though.
Hmmmm...
> Ooh, sensible discussion rather than aimless rants. We can always
> rely on the Grixter!
> It is £300.
So was PS1, but
> it still sold.
> It hasn't got that many games, and
> only
> a few are worth buying.
It was the same with the PS1.
> PS1 had Wipeout - it was the PS1's equivalent of SSX. The 'great'
> games only started appearing some time after European and US
> developers really 'got into' the machine.
> think that the
> PS2 has just PSX games with updated
> graphics.
The thing
> with the PS2 is that it is, to some extent, a compromise. It's
> different enough to be desirable (obviously not to all, but to
> many), and thus bring in thousands or millions of new fans. At the
> same time, it is familiar and 'safe' for existing customers of the
> PlayStation brand.
You can play your existing games, and apart
> from the analogue buttons, the controller is identical - immediately
> creating a familiar 'environment', and a safe upgrade path for
> existing PlayStation owners.
For new users, there is the
> enticement of some solid - if not astounding - PS2 games currently
> available, with the promise of much, much better to come in the not
> so distant future. Then there's the added attraction of the vast
> back-catalogue of PS1 games available to see them through until the
> (seemingly) excellent 2nd-gen PS2 games start to appear.
And of
> course, you have a perfectly respectable DVD player in there,
> too.
I don't really think you can go far wrong if you buy a PS2,
> unless you are a die-hard fan of another format. But even if you
> are
But then I would say that, wouldn't I? :-)
Sure, there
> may be better technology on the horizon, but that is *always* the
> case. Computer technology moves at such a rate these days that any
> machine you buy will be out of date by the time you get it home.
> Regardless of when it will or won't be available, the PS3 specs
> already make the Xbox out of date; will it stop any of us buying an
> Xbox if we *really* like it? Nope!
And finally... ignore any
> claims of 'future-proof' because there is no such thing;
> 'future-tolerant' is about as close as you can get.
>
> Views?
That's mine!
Hmmmm...
Well put.
Also, all the stuff about familiar environments, I'd never thought about really. It's true though.
Hmmmm...
That's not everyone's opinion though.
I love it when magazines and Web sites do these "best game ever" aticles.
In the end it comes down to what you want in a game, not what a reviewer wants.
Personally i think Zelda is trash, whilst other people love it.
Personally i think MGS (on the PC) is even worse, but a lot of people love it.
Replying to what someone else said about not knowing how good the X-Box will be. Well hopefully we will find out soon as Nvidea have just started Mass production of the GPU being used in the X-Box.
This is to build a back log of supplies for the obvious over-demand there will be.
I love it when magazines and Web sites do these "best game ever" aticles.
In the end it comes down to what you want in a game, not what a reviewer wants.
Personally i think Zelda is trash, whilst other people love it.
Personally i think MGS (on the PC) is even worse, but a lot of people love it.
Replying to what someone else said about not knowing how good the X-Box will be. Well hopefully we will find out soon as Nvidea have just started Mass production of the GPU being used in the X-Box.
This is to build a back log of supplies for the obvious over-demand there will be.
"although the likes of Zelda and Perfect Dark are probably better than anything on Dreamcast"
That was my favourite quote on the page!
The fact that a console almost 5 years old can run a 2 year old console so closely, and that the best games on the N64 are seen as better than the best games on the Dreamcast, is a major reason why Sega should stick to games, and waste no more money developing console hardware.
That was my favourite quote on the page!
The fact that a console almost 5 years old can run a 2 year old console so closely, and that the best games on the N64 are seen as better than the best games on the Dreamcast, is a major reason why Sega should stick to games, and waste no more money developing console hardware.
Regardless of when it will or won't be available, the PS3 specs already make the Xbox out of date; will it stop any of us buying an Xbox if we *really* like it? Nope
But then, although I may be about to contradict myself here, the PS2 specs seem to make the Dreamcast look out of date and yet nothing on PS2 will come close to the likes of Shenmue. Anyway, I've just been reading the EB awards - go and have a look!
I personally think that Microsoft will succeed, but when you take a look at the Japanese console charts and see that the PS2 is rivalled only by the GBC in terms of sales, BG is going to have to perform magic to capture the Miniature people market.
I'm sure the X-Box is going to be good, were you disappointed with Age of Empires? No.
I think it should remain a USA and European console only.
But then, although I may be about to contradict myself here, the PS2 specs seem to make the Dreamcast look out of date and yet nothing on PS2 will come close to the likes of Shenmue. Anyway, I've just been reading the EB awards - go and have a look!
I personally think that Microsoft will succeed, but when you take a look at the Japanese console charts and see that the PS2 is rivalled only by the GBC in terms of sales, BG is going to have to perform magic to capture the Miniature people market.
I'm sure the X-Box is going to be good, were you disappointed with Age of Empires? No.
I think it should remain a USA and European console only.
People have always been aware that new consoles are under procduction by the time they get their old ones home, and this has never dissuaded people from purchasing said console in the past.
However, things are not quite the same now. The hype for a new console starts a few years before its release, not a few months. More and more emphasis is being put on the specifications of these future machines. You can't just buy the current console and forget what's on the horison any more.
However, things are not quite the same now. The hype for a new console starts a few years before its release, not a few months. More and more emphasis is being put on the specifications of these future machines. You can't just buy the current console and forget what's on the horison any more.
Ooh, sensible discussion rather than aimless rants. We can always rely on the Grixter!
> It is £300.
So was PS1, but it still sold.
> It hasn't got that many games, and only
> a few are worth buying.
It was the same with the PS1. PS1 had Wipeout - it was the PS1's equivalent of SSX. The 'great' games only started appearing some time after European and US developers really 'got into' the machine.
> think that the PS2 has just PSX games with updated
> graphics.
The thing with the PS2 is that it is, to some extent, a compromise. It's different enough to be desirable (obviously not to all, but to many), and thus bring in thousands or millions of new fans. At the same time, it is familiar and 'safe' for existing customers of the PlayStation brand.
You can play your existing games, and apart from the analogue buttons, the controller is identical - immediately creating a familiar 'environment', and a safe upgrade path for existing PlayStation owners.
For new users, there is the enticement of some solid - if not astounding - PS2 games currently available, with the promise of much, much better to come in the not so distant future. Then there's the added attraction of the vast back-catalogue of PS1 games available to see them through until the (seemingly) excellent 2nd-gen PS2 games start to appear.
And of course, you have a perfectly respectable DVD player in there, too.
I don't really think you can go far wrong if you buy a PS2, unless you are a die-hard fan of another format. But even if you are
But then I would say that, wouldn't I? :-)
Sure, there may be better technology on the horizon, but that is *always* the case. Computer technology moves at such a rate these days that any machine you buy will be out of date by the time you get it home. Regardless of when it will or won't be available, the PS3 specs already make the Xbox out of date; will it stop any of us buying an Xbox if we *really* like it? Nope!
And finally... ignore any claims of 'future-proof' because there is no such thing; 'future-tolerant' is about as close as you can get.
> Views?
That's mine!
> It is £300.
So was PS1, but it still sold.
> It hasn't got that many games, and only
> a few are worth buying.
It was the same with the PS1. PS1 had Wipeout - it was the PS1's equivalent of SSX. The 'great' games only started appearing some time after European and US developers really 'got into' the machine.
> think that the PS2 has just PSX games with updated
> graphics.
The thing with the PS2 is that it is, to some extent, a compromise. It's different enough to be desirable (obviously not to all, but to many), and thus bring in thousands or millions of new fans. At the same time, it is familiar and 'safe' for existing customers of the PlayStation brand.
You can play your existing games, and apart from the analogue buttons, the controller is identical - immediately creating a familiar 'environment', and a safe upgrade path for existing PlayStation owners.
For new users, there is the enticement of some solid - if not astounding - PS2 games currently available, with the promise of much, much better to come in the not so distant future. Then there's the added attraction of the vast back-catalogue of PS1 games available to see them through until the (seemingly) excellent 2nd-gen PS2 games start to appear.
And of course, you have a perfectly respectable DVD player in there, too.
I don't really think you can go far wrong if you buy a PS2, unless you are a die-hard fan of another format. But even if you are
But then I would say that, wouldn't I? :-)
Sure, there may be better technology on the horizon, but that is *always* the case. Computer technology moves at such a rate these days that any machine you buy will be out of date by the time you get it home. Regardless of when it will or won't be available, the PS3 specs already make the Xbox out of date; will it stop any of us buying an Xbox if we *really* like it? Nope!
And finally... ignore any claims of 'future-proof' because there is no such thing; 'future-tolerant' is about as close as you can get.
> Views?
That's mine!
"I can see what you're seeing"
*Frantically starts pulling down books and cds looking for The Games hidden camera*
*Frantically starts pulling down books and cds looking for The Games hidden camera*
I can see what you're seeing, Mind you, I don't know what will happen...I can' only hope that Nintendo have a more N64ish Shaped Gamecube, with a cool Car CD player type slot, Sony's PS2 does fairly well, Microsofts X-Box Loses a Majority of developers and relies entirely on playing PC Games through a secret chip that Billy-o G put in on the snide!
The Game
Sega???.....Sega Who...are they new?
The Game
Sega???.....Sega Who...are they new?
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