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Tue 13/02/01 at 00:45
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It may well be 12:30am on Tuesday the something of February, but I had the urge to go to a website (which shall remain nameless for the time being...) and check out the Playstation 2 prices. The site loaded up nice and quickly, with the PS2 on the home page 'in stock now' or something to that description was what I managed to make out (it's very late and I'm tired...).

Clicking to find out mor information I was greeted by a list of specifications of this 'wonderful' console and to my horror founDthis!

128 bit "Emotion Engine"
produces superb, smooth game play

Does it really? Smooth game play. Ridge Racer 5. Turn a corner and Jagged-Jagged-Jagged-Jagged!!!

Plays DVDs
watch your favourite movies with digital quality picture and sound.

Well, that's true, but then there are different quality digital pictures, so nothing 'wrong' here...

Includes a Dual Shock 2 controller
this new controller features analogue buttons. the harder you press them, the higher you jump or the faster you accelerate.

Ok, now has anyone else found that the PS2 controllers were hyped to the death? Well this may be the case, because these 'features' aren't all that impressive really.

Requires PS2 8mb memory card to save games
to save your games, replays and highest scores you will need a playstation 2 8mb memory card. playstation 2 is 200 times faster than playstation one.

Is it really? Is the Playstation one really 200 times slower? How misleading! 1 piece of evidence for you - Ridge Racer 5. Oh yeah, and every other PS2 game other than SSX and Time Splitters (and maybe DoA2 and TTT!!).
Surely they're lying with this...

Plays nearly all original PlayStation games
99% of the games produced for playstation work with playstation 2. the graphics will be improved and they may load slightly quicker.

Ok, so it does play all the PSone games apart from a few. But to say the graphics will be improved??? The bare faced cheek of it! Methinks, Comet have been telling little fibs just to make a sale...



Please note here - I am not having a 'dig' at the Playstation 2, but the truth is - Comet - yes Comet, have got it wrong here and are telling their customers lies, which is, quite frankly, not on at all. I think we should report them? Or am I being too hasty. Perhaps, when they tested out the likes of RR5 and FIFA 2001, they were under the impression that they were PSone games, and so believed the graphics were slightly better than using the PSone...

Hmmm....

Anyone else?
Tue 13/02/01 at 19:33
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GT3 demos and previews are everywhere, its not just screen shots, don`t worry.
Tue 13/02/01 at 19:30
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I ARE u taking that from dirty Screenshots Ant?

'GT3 will rule' have you played it?

and The dreamcast is selling better because of its halving in price!!
Tue 13/02/01 at 19:28
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Dan2K1 wrote:
Anyway who cares about that, DC sales =
> higher than PS2 for some reason...people know...which console...has
> better...

Yeah, whatever. So when you have two PS2s to sell, its SOO easy to sell them to four people isn`t it!!
The only reasons the DC sold better is that it has better games around at the moment, though not for long (We`re comparing the DCs peak to the PS2s foot of the mountain), and because the DC was available in the shops where as PS2s weren`t.

Perhaps success should have been judged on the percentage of sales.
That way, you`ll see that DC had left overs, so say 50% were sold (Only an example), where as PS2 sold every single console which is er, let me think ... 100%.
Which seems more successful now?
Tue 13/02/01 at 19:26
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It enhances the graphics on some games, and loads quicker on most.

MGS is slightly more detailed, and SMackdown 2 loads quicker.

Also, I think you went a bit over the top with the 'jagged' bit on RR5. But remember, RR5 and FIFA 2001 are the worst games on PS2.

GT3 will rule.
Tue 13/02/01 at 19:23
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Dan2K1 wrote:

128 bit
> "Emotion Engine"
produces superb, smooth game play
Does it really? Smooth game play. Ridge Racer 5. Turn a corner
> and Jagged-Jagged-Jagged-Jagged!!!

---That is due to the developer of the game, not the PS2.

Plays DVDs
watch your
> favourite movies with digital quality picture and sound.

Well,
> that's true, but then there are different quality digital pictures,
> so nothing 'wrong' here...
Includes a Dual Shock 2 controller
this new controller features analogue buttons. the harder you
> press them, the higher you jump or the faster you accelerate.
Ok, now has anyone else found that the PS2 controllers were
> hyped to the death? Well this may be the case, because these
> 'features' aren't all that impressive really.

---That is because barely any games have that facility yet. It`ll come soon though.
Requires PS2 8mb
> memory card to save games
to save your games, replays and highest
> scores you will need a playstation 2 8mb memory card. playstation 2
> is 200 times faster than playstation one.

Is it really? Is the
> Playstation one really 200 times slower? How misleading! 1 piece of
> evidence for you - Ridge Racer 5. Oh yeah, and every other PS2 game
> other than SSX and Time Splitters (and maybe DoA2 and TTT!!).
>
Surely they're lying with this...

---The difference of speed is affected by what is on screen, so if you had the same amount of detail on each screen for each console then the difference would be 200 times. (Though that figure may not yet have been reached, but will be by the end of 2001)

Plays nearly all original
> PlayStation games
99% of the games produced for playstation work
> with playstation 2. the graphics will be improved and they may load
> slightly quicker.

Ok, so it does play all the PSone games apart
> from a few. But to say the graphics will be improved??? The bare
> faced cheek of it! Methinks, Comet have been telling little fibs
> just to make a sale...

---Actually it depends on the game. Final Fantasy VIII was noticeably smoother when you look closely at the characters, due to the texture mapping enhancements. Also, MGS looked much smoother, though I only tried that for a few minutes.
As for the loading times, they are indeed much quicker. For WipEout 2097, the loading time was cut by 3.7 seconds with the original time standing at 9.4.


Please note here - I am not having a
> 'dig' at the Playstation 2, but the truth is - Comet - yes Comet,
> have got it wrong here and are telling their customers lies, which
> is, quite frankly, not on at all. I think we should report them? Or
> am I being too hasty. Perhaps, when they tested out the likes of RR5
> and FIFA 2001, they were under the impression that they were PSone
> games, and so believed the graphics were slightly better than using
> the PSone...

Comet were simply telling you the best cases, there were no lies. They have to sell there items, not be picky and show up the small faults.

How`s this?
PS2 - Will get faster eventually, not amazing YET though.
Controllers are good, but not that useful YET.
PSX games are improved but not all of them.
Its not quite the way to sell stuff is it.
Tue 13/02/01 at 19:09
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And Sega get told off for saying 'Up to 6Billion players'! There may be 6billion people, but not phone lines, and Daytona USA Online will only be 40 people at once! Anyway who cares about that, DC sales = higher than PS2 for some reason...people know...which console...has better...
Tue 13/02/01 at 18:50
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I dont think the PS2 can enhance the graphics or game that have been created no console can do that as it cant change a game that has been made!!
What it can do though is make it appear better by enhancing the images on the TV and replaying them, not changing the game in anyway but Sony have cleverly used wordage!
Dont believe it!
Tue 13/02/01 at 18:06
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Bleem for the PC is on sale online as we speak, but I cannot give you the link from which particular site you can buy it from, but it is there.
Tue 13/02/01 at 18:04
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Broadband DSL (ADSL and SDSL) should become widely available from July 2001 when they unbundle the local loop.
Tue 13/02/01 at 17:41
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I confirm that I'm sure it doesn't, I think...

Where's Bleem?
What about the Dreamcast webcam?
Is the broadband modem coming out?

Hmmm. All these questions with no one to answer them :(

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