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while i was reading the 9/11 (or 11/9 if you prefer :) ) thread i noticed that the event broke a trend that seemed to follow almost every other "dark day in our nations history"
Remember when that guy was arrested for killing 90-year old woman, removing her heart and drinking her blood?
no?
well it happened and the immediate media response was "Blame music, blame movies, blame video games!!, he listened to marilyn manson and played Shooting games!! ban them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (to semi quote the Daily Mail)
ok then, slightly more media coverage; remember when those 2 teenagers shot Columbine school up Littleton, Colarado?
SURE ya do!!
i'm sure you remember the same immediate media response as well: "Blame music, blame movies, blame video games!!, he listened to marilyn manson and played Shooting games!! ban them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (to semi quote the Daily Mail)
** (actually, spooky as it seems, one of the kids from the columbine shootings had a note in his diary about stealing a plane and crashing it into new york. impossible for HIM to do, but quite chilling i thought...)
which brings us to the World Trade Centre. horrifying event, as were the other 2 examples but remember what happened afterwards?? "Bomb everyone!! we don't have to take this!!! wave your flags, close your fists, U.S.A.. U.S.A", etc. not once did they make mention of the usual media target of games, music, etc. not once did anyone ask "why?", they simply asked "who?"
so playing Doom, in which you shoot fictional monsters will lead you to shoot up your school huh? better try and ban Doom then, Marilyn Manson wears makeup and black, CLEARLY insighting people to kill... best ban him too then.
so, fictional monsters and an image based in almost cartoon-like imagery then huh? not exactly grounded in reality is it?
now on the other hand, Microsoft Flight Simulator, as realistic as it can possibly be. so much so that you can log hours on the game to count towards a professional pilots liscence. made by an american company and used by flight schools the world over. The Al-Queda itself, trained and funded by the US army, given the tools with which to commit those sad events. and yet not once did anyone in US authority say "ok, we admit it, maybe that wasn't the smartest thing to do" they glazed over that bit and went straight to the invading part.
don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-US and by no means did those people deserve it, but it just seems that an atrocity against one section of society such as Columbine can be blamed on entertainments using arguements that are, at best, flimsy. yet an atrocity intended as a message to people in higher power appears to warrant a little more of a reaction that simply "ban a few games and target a few bands"
to me it kind of trivialised the unfortunate people involved in the attacks and made it more about the symbolic building and the fact that the US discovered it wasn't as bulletproof as it liked to think.
any thoughts?
Remember when that guy was arrested for killing 90-year old woman, removing her heart and drinking her blood?
no?
well it happened and the immediate media response was "Blame music, blame movies, blame video games!!, he listened to marilyn manson and played Shooting games!! ban them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (to semi quote the Daily Mail)
ok then, slightly more media coverage; remember when those 2 teenagers shot Columbine school up Littleton, Colarado?
SURE ya do!!
i'm sure you remember the same immediate media response as well: "Blame music, blame movies, blame video games!!, he listened to marilyn manson and played Shooting games!! ban them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (to semi quote the Daily Mail)
** (actually, spooky as it seems, one of the kids from the columbine shootings had a note in his diary about stealing a plane and crashing it into new york. impossible for HIM to do, but quite chilling i thought...)
which brings us to the World Trade Centre. horrifying event, as were the other 2 examples but remember what happened afterwards?? "Bomb everyone!! we don't have to take this!!! wave your flags, close your fists, U.S.A.. U.S.A", etc. not once did they make mention of the usual media target of games, music, etc. not once did anyone ask "why?", they simply asked "who?"
so playing Doom, in which you shoot fictional monsters will lead you to shoot up your school huh? better try and ban Doom then, Marilyn Manson wears makeup and black, CLEARLY insighting people to kill... best ban him too then.
so, fictional monsters and an image based in almost cartoon-like imagery then huh? not exactly grounded in reality is it?
now on the other hand, Microsoft Flight Simulator, as realistic as it can possibly be. so much so that you can log hours on the game to count towards a professional pilots liscence. made by an american company and used by flight schools the world over. The Al-Queda itself, trained and funded by the US army, given the tools with which to commit those sad events. and yet not once did anyone in US authority say "ok, we admit it, maybe that wasn't the smartest thing to do" they glazed over that bit and went straight to the invading part.
don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-US and by no means did those people deserve it, but it just seems that an atrocity against one section of society such as Columbine can be blamed on entertainments using arguements that are, at best, flimsy. yet an atrocity intended as a message to people in higher power appears to warrant a little more of a reaction that simply "ban a few games and target a few bands"
to me it kind of trivialised the unfortunate people involved in the attacks and made it more about the symbolic building and the fact that the US discovered it wasn't as bulletproof as it liked to think.
any thoughts?
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while i was reading the 9/11 (or 11/9 if you prefer :) ) thread i noticed that the event broke a trend that seemed to follow almost every other "dark day in our nations history"
Remember when that guy was arrested for killing 90-year old woman, removing her heart and drinking her blood?
no?
well it happened and the immediate media response was "Blame music, blame movies, blame video games!!, he listened to marilyn manson and played Shooting games!! ban them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (to semi quote the Daily Mail)
ok then, slightly more media coverage; remember when those 2 teenagers shot Columbine school up Littleton, Colarado?
SURE ya do!!
i'm sure you remember the same immediate media response as well: "Blame music, blame movies, blame video games!!, he listened to marilyn manson and played Shooting games!! ban them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (to semi quote the Daily Mail)
** (actually, spooky as it seems, one of the kids from the columbine shootings had a note in his diary about stealing a plane and crashing it into new york. impossible for HIM to do, but quite chilling i thought...)
which brings us to the World Trade Centre. horrifying event, as were the other 2 examples but remember what happened afterwards?? "Bomb everyone!! we don't have to take this!!! wave your flags, close your fists, U.S.A.. U.S.A", etc. not once did they make mention of the usual media target of games, music, etc. not once did anyone ask "why?", they simply asked "who?"
so playing Doom, in which you shoot fictional monsters will lead you to shoot up your school huh? better try and ban Doom then, Marilyn Manson wears makeup and black, CLEARLY insighting people to kill... best ban him too then.
so, fictional monsters and an image based in almost cartoon-like imagery then huh? not exactly grounded in reality is it?
now on the other hand, Microsoft Flight Simulator, as realistic as it can possibly be. so much so that you can log hours on the game to count towards a professional pilots liscence. made by an american company and used by flight schools the world over. The Al-Queda itself, trained and funded by the US army, given the tools with which to commit those sad events. and yet not once did anyone in US authority say "ok, we admit it, maybe that wasn't the smartest thing to do" they glazed over that bit and went straight to the invading part.
don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-US and by no means did those people deserve it, but it just seems that an atrocity against one section of society such as Columbine can be blamed on entertainments using arguements that are, at best, flimsy. yet an atrocity intended as a message to people in higher power appears to warrant a little more of a reaction that simply "ban a few games and target a few bands"
to me it kind of trivialised the unfortunate people involved in the attacks and made it more about the symbolic building and the fact that the US discovered it wasn't as bulletproof as it liked to think.
any thoughts?
Remember when that guy was arrested for killing 90-year old woman, removing her heart and drinking her blood?
no?
well it happened and the immediate media response was "Blame music, blame movies, blame video games!!, he listened to marilyn manson and played Shooting games!! ban them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (to semi quote the Daily Mail)
ok then, slightly more media coverage; remember when those 2 teenagers shot Columbine school up Littleton, Colarado?
SURE ya do!!
i'm sure you remember the same immediate media response as well: "Blame music, blame movies, blame video games!!, he listened to marilyn manson and played Shooting games!! ban them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (to semi quote the Daily Mail)
** (actually, spooky as it seems, one of the kids from the columbine shootings had a note in his diary about stealing a plane and crashing it into new york. impossible for HIM to do, but quite chilling i thought...)
which brings us to the World Trade Centre. horrifying event, as were the other 2 examples but remember what happened afterwards?? "Bomb everyone!! we don't have to take this!!! wave your flags, close your fists, U.S.A.. U.S.A", etc. not once did they make mention of the usual media target of games, music, etc. not once did anyone ask "why?", they simply asked "who?"
so playing Doom, in which you shoot fictional monsters will lead you to shoot up your school huh? better try and ban Doom then, Marilyn Manson wears makeup and black, CLEARLY insighting people to kill... best ban him too then.
so, fictional monsters and an image based in almost cartoon-like imagery then huh? not exactly grounded in reality is it?
now on the other hand, Microsoft Flight Simulator, as realistic as it can possibly be. so much so that you can log hours on the game to count towards a professional pilots liscence. made by an american company and used by flight schools the world over. The Al-Queda itself, trained and funded by the US army, given the tools with which to commit those sad events. and yet not once did anyone in US authority say "ok, we admit it, maybe that wasn't the smartest thing to do" they glazed over that bit and went straight to the invading part.
don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-US and by no means did those people deserve it, but it just seems that an atrocity against one section of society such as Columbine can be blamed on entertainments using arguements that are, at best, flimsy. yet an atrocity intended as a message to people in higher power appears to warrant a little more of a reaction that simply "ban a few games and target a few bands"
to me it kind of trivialised the unfortunate people involved in the attacks and made it more about the symbolic building and the fact that the US discovered it wasn't as bulletproof as it liked to think.
any thoughts?
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