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"How did these people get into University?"

Outside the exam hall is a diagram clearly showing where you'll be sitting. Inside, desks are clearly named in alphabetical order. Yet without fail, at every single exam, there will be half a dozen or so people who fail to find their seat without assistance from an invigilator.

Why is this? How is it possible that these people will, in just a few weeks time, be graduating with degrees?

"Inability to follow basic instructions and/or lack of understanding of alphabtical ordering."

People with those qualities should be working in supermarkets, not getting degrees. Those who turn up late are excused, and for those that don't I'll allow a little slack for 'exam nerves', but thoe ones who've been at University for THREE YEARS and STILL fail to comprehend a seating system simple enough for primary school children, do not deserve that much slack.


Whatever the government says, we should not be getting more people into higher education. You can't flog a dead horse. University should only be for those who have a genuine ability or desire to achieve something, not for those who have to use their fingers to count.

Thanks Borat,
I'm not always crazy, but I think you'll find that can sometimes change without warning *slaps self on face, then punches self in stomach to try to forget about pain on face*







Mr. No shoes

Hedfix wrote:
> The Government are right to make people get loans. A lot of people,
> and I mean a LOT, use University to doss around for 2/3 years. Look at
> how Sports Studies has risen in the past few years. There are not
> enough sports related jobs in the world for the amount of people doing
> sports studies in the UK.

true dat, but that doesn't make my 13 grand debt any easier to face.

*shakes fist at imaginary tony blair*

The Government are right to make people get loans. A lot of people, and I mean a LOT, use University to doss around for 2/3 years. Look at how Sports Studies has risen in the past few years. There are not enough sports related jobs in the world for the amount of people doing sports studies in the UK.

Mr. No shoes wrote:
> The fact that people can't find out where to sit down in an exam is
> irrelevant, what matters is what they write down on the paper. It is
> quite possible that these people have spent all night revising or
> worrying about the exam the next morning. And it's also easy to get a
> bit nervous If your about to enter the exam that dictates your whole
> future, and it's understandable to be a bit overwhelmed by it. Anyway,
> the people who really don't deserve to be there because they are not
> bright enough will probably fail the exams and will end up with crap
> jobs, If you are in Uni you are lucky to be there yourself, it's not
> worth bothering yourself about why someone else should be. Think of
> people in poorer countries who don't have a chance of even a primary
> school education, they should be the ones people are worried about.
>
>
>
> Mr. No shoes

am I hearing you right? a half way decent post by someone called mister crazyco... I mean no shoes.

*slaps face*

The fact that people can't find out where to sit down in an exam is irrelevant, what matters is what they write down on the paper. It is quite possible that these people have spent all night revising or worrying about the exam the next morning. And it's also easy to get a bit nervous If your about to enter the exam that dictates your whole future, and it's understandable to be a bit overwhelmed by it. Anyway, the people who really don't deserve to be there because they are not bright enough will probably fail the exams and will end up with crap jobs, If you are in Uni you are lucky to be there yourself, it's not worth bothering yourself about why someone else should be. Think of people in poorer countries who don't have a chance of even a primary school education, they should be the ones people are worried about.



Mr. No shoes

Practical Magic wrote:
> What you don't know now you never will know.
>
> I never revise the day before an exam, never harmed me.

Then again, you don't know how much good it would have done were you to have done it.

That's the Blank difference for you.

At least when uni was only for the most 'capable', it was open to anyone with the academic ability, with state financial aid.
(Okay, not 'anyone', but bare with me)

Now everyone's on a degree, presumably they have to be 'dumbed down' to a level that can accomodate all the less 'capable'.

Which sort of makes the masters the equivalent of what a degree used to be.

Only it's a lot harder to finance a masters.
So instead of most people being able to take a degree to prove their academic ability, regardless of their background, a degree is a lesser achievement, and only the relatively wealthy or those lucky enough to find funding can have to opportunity to prove their ability.


I could be wrong, but that's my view of it.


Then again I might take a different view if I was one of the people who wouldn't have gone to uni in the 'old days'.
And it was certainly a great experience, which probably hugely benefits any student who moves away from home.


Conclusion:
Degrees are cheaper, but it's still good that people get to do them.
We need state financial support for masters and other postgraduate courses, so that people still have the opportunity to stretch themselves to the best of their ability.

Or at least recognised differentiation of degrees, so a 2:1 in something hard (law, politics) is treated differently to a 2:1 in film & tv studies (the most half-assed course in the world (no offence)).

I couldn't agree more, and whilst people are getting degrees the will be about as much use as toilet paper, whether that's due the subject or the ex-poly they attended is not respected enough, or both, we are suffering from a lack of skilled labourers who used to learn a trade in polytechnic colleges.

where did they all go then?

EDUCATION EDUCATION EDUCATION

Furhter education isn't further education anymore, it's normal education.

Yes, it is elitest, but that's what getting the best means.


*ceases rant, sits back down and waits for news of doctorate funding rather than getting a proper job*

Why is Stephen Hawkings so respected as one of the cleverest bods around? I'd kick his ass at Kerplunk.

The education system is just generally messed up.

I got 4 A-grades in my AS level exams, yet I still count on my fingers. I messed up a countless number of times when I had to work out in my head how much change to give at my old part time job!