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Today i picked up an old guitar mag and found a song by slipknot tabbed out. I decided to give it a go. Since they're a grunge band, i guessed it would be in drop D tuning. I played the song through and thought it sounded ok, then tried it with the backing track on the CD. I have only just realised why it sounded so wrong: You DO drop D....then take every single string down a further 3 frets!!! It's MAD! The bottom string goes down to a B for christs sake!!! And a warning to all guitarists: NEVER play ANYTHING by slipknot unless your string gauge is at least [.053-.014]. Plus the tempo of this song (people=) is 237 bpm! So really all in all, being able to play at this pitch and speed seems to make slipknot a pretty talented bunch...
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
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You're right they are tuned waaay down. It is all on 6 strings however. I find that .010's are good as far as about C or C#.
I think Mick Thompson is a good guitarist, he can shred quite well when I have heard him outside the 'knot. But none of the band show any real musicianship in 'knot coz simply there is no room for anything musical, their individual talents are wasted. I also think that Corey Taylor is a very good vocalist, or at least he is when he sings in Stonesour.
Korn didn't pioneer the seven string. Steve Vai did. In fact originally Korn used Vai signature Ibanez's until they got their own signature 7 stringer, the K-7. Steve Vai incidentally makes a mockery of 237 bpm. He has been known to play at 21 notes per second, which works out at 1260 bpm.
If you want something heavy and musical check out Nickelbacks first album. Yes I am being serious. Or Stiltskin! (Anyone remember them?)
Noobster, what do you mean part of the string is stuck under the bridge? What type of guitar have you got? Which E string? If it is a strat that you have (Fender, Squier or any other copy) and a string has snapped and left the end in the block then just get a bit of wire, a needle...anything that will fit into the block from the top and push the end out. If it is a Floyd Rose trem, i.e one with bolts over the strings at the nut, then be VERY careful. If you aren't you can damage the trem's edge and it will never be the same again. If it is a tune-o-matic bridge i.e a les paul stylee, then the most that could have happened is you managed to jam a string into a groove on a saddle. Happened to me once when I went up a gauge of strings. It just pulled out then.
I think Mick Thompson is a good guitarist, he can shred quite well when I have heard him outside the 'knot. But none of the band show any real musicianship in 'knot coz simply there is no room for anything musical, their individual talents are wasted. I also think that Corey Taylor is a very good vocalist, or at least he is when he sings in Stonesour.
Korn didn't pioneer the seven string. Steve Vai did. In fact originally Korn used Vai signature Ibanez's until they got their own signature 7 stringer, the K-7. Steve Vai incidentally makes a mockery of 237 bpm. He has been known to play at 21 notes per second, which works out at 1260 bpm.
If you want something heavy and musical check out Nickelbacks first album. Yes I am being serious. Or Stiltskin! (Anyone remember them?)
Noobster, what do you mean part of the string is stuck under the bridge? What type of guitar have you got? Which E string? If it is a strat that you have (Fender, Squier or any other copy) and a string has snapped and left the end in the block then just get a bit of wire, a needle...anything that will fit into the block from the top and push the end out. If it is a Floyd Rose trem, i.e one with bolts over the strings at the nut, then be VERY careful. If you aren't you can damage the trem's edge and it will never be the same again. If it is a tune-o-matic bridge i.e a les paul stylee, then the most that could have happened is you managed to jam a string into a groove on a saddle. Happened to me once when I went up a gauge of strings. It just pulled out then.
triggerhappyrocker wrote:
> You DO drop
> D....then take every single string down a further 3 frets!!!
So Drop to D, then another 3 frets down... takes the e string down to a B.
This is what the lowest note on a 7 stringer would be. Me thinks that the tab is indeed fiddled with so people can play it on a six string guitar.
> You DO drop
> D....then take every single string down a further 3 frets!!!
So Drop to D, then another 3 frets down... takes the e string down to a B.
This is what the lowest note on a 7 stringer would be. Me thinks that the tab is indeed fiddled with so people can play it on a six string guitar.
No it isn't fiddled. The guitar that Mick Thompson uses is a BC Rich Warlock and his signature one, like the one he plays, is just a 6 stringer. I can't remember off the top of my head what Root plays. But it just tuned down.
Remember kiddies, it's only tabbed out by the mag so it might not be right. Same with tab book - they employ a session musician to listen to the music and give their best representation on paper. No input from the original musician. Some tab books rip you off because they just put "Ad. Lib", or "Effects" in places where the tabber can't figure it out. Fact.
monkey_man wrote:
> Some tab books rip you off because they
> just put "Ad. Lib", or "Effects" in places where
> the tabber can't figure it out. Fact.
That's pretty lame of them!
They aren't all such lazy goits though. I found a complete tab for Eddie van Halen's solo in Michael Jackson's "Beat It" on the internet.
Needless to say I can't play it, but it was still an impressive bit of guitar work to tab out.
> Some tab books rip you off because they
> just put "Ad. Lib", or "Effects" in places where
> the tabber can't figure it out. Fact.
That's pretty lame of them!
They aren't all such lazy goits though. I found a complete tab for Eddie van Halen's solo in Michael Jackson's "Beat It" on the internet.
Needless to say I can't play it, but it was still an impressive bit of guitar work to tab out.
Notorious Biggles wrote:
>The guitar that Mick Thompson uses is a BC Rich
> Warlock and his signature one, like the one he plays, is just a 6
> stringer. I can't remember off the top of my head what Root plays. But
> it just tuned down.
On EVERY Slipknot song and on stage Root plays a:
Jackson SLP guitar (6 stringer) through a Mesa/Boogie DC10 head and Mesa/Carvin 4x12 cabs, supplemented by a Dunlop Rotovibe and a Digitech Whammy pedal.
Thomson uses his custom BC Rich Warlock guitar (Definatly a 6 stringer!!!) into a Marshall JMP 1 programmable tube preamp, feeding a Mesa/Boogie Simulclass 2:95/0 power amp, with a Boss GX700 effects unit.
>The guitar that Mick Thompson uses is a BC Rich
> Warlock and his signature one, like the one he plays, is just a 6
> stringer. I can't remember off the top of my head what Root plays. But
> it just tuned down.
On EVERY Slipknot song and on stage Root plays a:
Jackson SLP guitar (6 stringer) through a Mesa/Boogie DC10 head and Mesa/Carvin 4x12 cabs, supplemented by a Dunlop Rotovibe and a Digitech Whammy pedal.
Thomson uses his custom BC Rich Warlock guitar (Definatly a 6 stringer!!!) into a Marshall JMP 1 programmable tube preamp, feeding a Mesa/Boogie Simulclass 2:95/0 power amp, with a Boss GX700 effects unit.
Depends on the publisher of the tab book. Music Sales stuff is generally pretty decent, as its often done with the band. Especially Coldplay stuff and their unusual tunings.
Anyone here have the slipknot album "IOWA"? I ordered it a few days ago. Best songs: Left Behind and People =
Yeah, ive got it. I don't really listen to it much. The main song that I got it for was My Plague. That song rules! :D
I love the sound Slipknot get out of two drummers. My dad says it's pointless and you might as well have just one, but he hasn't heard any of their stuff.
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