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Firstly i'd like to state my out rage at Eric Cantona winning the "premierships best import" award. What a joke, How can they compare Cantona's stay at old Trafford, in any way to the sheer professionalism of Gianfranco zola. Cantona was at united 5 years and Zola has been at Chelsea 6 already. But the length of the stay is irrelevant. Zola has done the incredible he has Stretched a career into his 37th year, a time when many strikers would already have been retired 3 years. Cantona retired age 30 and even then was looking pretty unfit. Zola has dedicated his later years to maintaining peak fitness and is still running circles around men, little over half his age.
One Area where he does have the edge is in the goal record department. The Old Trafford legend joined United in 1992 from Leeds for £1.2million, making 191 appearances and scoring 88 goals before retiring in 1997.
THe Hero of Stamford Bridge however has scored 80 in 300 apearrances yet is stil going on.
In reality goals are irrelevant in this consideration. If Goal tallies were the measure of the best import, Henry, Hasselbaink, and Van Nistelrooy (nearly) have already far surpassed this target.
Zola has offered this league nothing but professionalism and good nature, Cantona however was involved in the biggest disrepute case the premier league, with an assault on the lifeblood of English football....the fans.
I know many football pundits were expecting Zola to win this award, and he can feel robbed not to have one it, his vision touch and class are unparralelled by any man in the league with the exception of.......Dennis Bergkamp. My previous ramblings may have sounded extremely pro Chelsea (and they were) but not i am moving to the other end of the Scale with London Rivals Arsenal.
Dennis Bergkamp has been Critical to the building of arsenal into the team they are today. The Bergkamp-Wright, Followed by the Bergkamp-Henry partner shiphave been two of the most impressive strike partnerships to reach the premiership.
Bergkamp has a pretty good scoring record with 102 goals in a little over 300 appearances, and has been crucial insupport of Highbury's all time top scorer, wright, and the man who if he stays looks certain to break that record; Henry. With out the presence of Bergkamp would Wright have reached the record in Time, Would Henry have learnt the things he has or thrived on an exquisite supply. Would Arsenal have benefit from a ridiculous £23
million transfer fee from Anelka it there had been not been the impressive bergkamp to lift him to were he was. Bergkamp has provided the premiership with 8 years of loyal service, has scored goals from pretty much every concievable angle and has shown a passing range only zola can match as a a sriker, as his career carries intohis mid 30's. Arguably Bergkamp too has had more than his fair share of disciplinary procedures, but at least his foibles have been confined to the pitch.
I find it hard to believe that many Man Utd supporters, would deny that although Cantona provided us with some out standing memories (especially the amazing juggle previously shown at the start of match of the day), and performed at a high level as a striker, That The level of profesionalism, good attitude and dedication to the game shown by Zola and Bergkamp, leaves them more deserving winners, with Cantona close behind.
One Area where he does have the edge is in the goal record department. The Old Trafford legend joined United in 1992 from Leeds for £1.2million, making 191 appearances and scoring 88 goals before retiring in 1997.
THe Hero of Stamford Bridge however has scored 80 in 300 apearrances yet is stil going on.
In reality goals are irrelevant in this consideration. If Goal tallies were the measure of the best import, Henry, Hasselbaink, and Van Nistelrooy (nearly) have already far surpassed this target.
Zola has offered this league nothing but professionalism and good nature, Cantona however was involved in the biggest disrepute case the premier league, with an assault on the lifeblood of English football....the fans.
I know many football pundits were expecting Zola to win this award, and he can feel robbed not to have one it, his vision touch and class are unparralelled by any man in the league with the exception of.......Dennis Bergkamp. My previous ramblings may have sounded extremely pro Chelsea (and they were) but not i am moving to the other end of the Scale with London Rivals Arsenal.
Dennis Bergkamp has been Critical to the building of arsenal into the team they are today. The Bergkamp-Wright, Followed by the Bergkamp-Henry partner shiphave been two of the most impressive strike partnerships to reach the premiership.
Bergkamp has a pretty good scoring record with 102 goals in a little over 300 appearances, and has been crucial insupport of Highbury's all time top scorer, wright, and the man who if he stays looks certain to break that record; Henry. With out the presence of Bergkamp would Wright have reached the record in Time, Would Henry have learnt the things he has or thrived on an exquisite supply. Would Arsenal have benefit from a ridiculous £23
million transfer fee from Anelka it there had been not been the impressive bergkamp to lift him to were he was. Bergkamp has provided the premiership with 8 years of loyal service, has scored goals from pretty much every concievable angle and has shown a passing range only zola can match as a a sriker, as his career carries intohis mid 30's. Arguably Bergkamp too has had more than his fair share of disciplinary procedures, but at least his foibles have been confined to the pitch.
I find it hard to believe that many Man Utd supporters, would deny that although Cantona provided us with some out standing memories (especially the amazing juggle previously shown at the start of match of the day), and performed at a high level as a striker, That The level of profesionalism, good attitude and dedication to the game shown by Zola and Bergkamp, leaves them more deserving winners, with Cantona close behind.
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Schemichel is the best keeper ever in the Premiership- I think he's one of the great 'keepers, up there with Banks, Jennings, Shilton, Yashin et al.
Schmeichel was amazing in that game against Newvastle though.
Perhaps no single one save deserving of the best save award in that game, but Newcastle would have won the league if he hadnt of put in that stunning performance that night. Also extra amzaing becasue Newcastle had won every single home game that season up to that game!
Perhaps no single one save deserving of the best save award in that game, but Newcastle would have won the league if he hadnt of put in that stunning performance that night. Also extra amzaing becasue Newcastle had won every single home game that season up to that game!
I have been further irritated by these awards. Schmeichel who is the best keeper the premiership has ever had has been given....not the best import, not even best keeper, but wait for it.......the best save. Which piece of goal keeping wizardry was this for i here you ask....For possibly the most run of the mill save you ever will see against newcastle in 1997. I have seen Scheichel make much better saves than that, Freidel and a few other prem keepers have pulled of muchbetter saves than that...since christmas. Possibly the best Prem save was this season by antti Niemi when he showed amazing reflexs to pull of that triple save from viera. Schmeichel deserves an award as he is the best keeper this league has had, but this is a nother show of how the awards (which in reality are pointless, but a source of irritation to me at the moment) are constantly engineered towards Man utd. I may well kill the Head of the PFA if player of the year goes to Van Nistelrooy when Thierry Henry deserves it so much more.
I have to agree with it, and give Eric "The King" Cantona the credit he has deserved to be voted the best import of the last 10-years-or-so.
Who else could really deserve it?!?
Sure, Gianfranco Zola is a brilliant player and everything, but he's only really, this season, playing like the player Vialli signed him for, and he hasn't really helped Chelsea to anything more than that.
Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbaink is the only other real candidate, in my view. Just look at how he carried Leeds through win-after-win, and how much he meant to the Elland Road fans, before he left for Atletico Madrid. But, again - he hasn't really helped Leeds - or even Chelsea - to anything like the league title, or even the FA Cup. All he's really done is score goals - and very little else. But even topping the scoring-charts in Spain couldn't save his side from Relegation.
He has the potential to influence a team, like Cantona has done. But, to me, he's just been in all the wrong teams.
And I suppose you could nominate Thierry Henry... But he hasn't really been here all-that-long, and only really found his feet a year-or-two AFTER he signed for Le Gunners from Juventus. He hasn't had the immediate impact of a player like Cantona, Hasselbaink, or even Wayne Rooney...!
Who else could really deserve it?!?
Sure, Gianfranco Zola is a brilliant player and everything, but he's only really, this season, playing like the player Vialli signed him for, and he hasn't really helped Chelsea to anything more than that.
Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbaink is the only other real candidate, in my view. Just look at how he carried Leeds through win-after-win, and how much he meant to the Elland Road fans, before he left for Atletico Madrid. But, again - he hasn't really helped Leeds - or even Chelsea - to anything like the league title, or even the FA Cup. All he's really done is score goals - and very little else. But even topping the scoring-charts in Spain couldn't save his side from Relegation.
He has the potential to influence a team, like Cantona has done. But, to me, he's just been in all the wrong teams.
And I suppose you could nominate Thierry Henry... But he hasn't really been here all-that-long, and only really found his feet a year-or-two AFTER he signed for Le Gunners from Juventus. He hasn't had the immediate impact of a player like Cantona, Hasselbaink, or even Wayne Rooney...!
Yeh but Ashley I don't think you understand how it works with the award - the likes of Cantona and Henry have Helped Utd/Arsenal to winning a lot of majors, Chelsea have under achieved for a long time now, even you have to admit to that - if it was Chelsea that had been in United's Shoes and won many title's in the 1990's then Zola would have got the award
It all boils to Cantona helping United winning many things, I also agree that if Zola would have played for United he would have probably got the honours because he would have won things - unfair sometimes but thats how it works with football's governing bodies, and there's nothing we can really do about it.
It all boils to Cantona helping United winning many things, I also agree that if Zola would have played for United he would have probably got the honours because he would have won things - unfair sometimes but thats how it works with football's governing bodies, and there's nothing we can really do about it.
Cantona achieved a lot- even though he missed the 1994/5 season through a ban. He helped Man United and Leeds United to titles- and scored some exce3llent goals. I would, admittedly, see Zola or Ginola as best import- they had skill and SELF CONTROL.
El Blokey wrote:
> AliBoy wrote:
> I think Le Tissier should have got it.
>
> What, best import?
Nah, I mentioned the bit about Shearer, didn't he get the best British player or best homegrown or something like that?
> AliBoy wrote:
> I think Le Tissier should have got it.
>
> What, best import?
Nah, I mentioned the bit about Shearer, didn't he get the best British player or best homegrown or something like that?
most foreign imports?
Nope Liverpool would slaughter us in that category!
Nope Liverpool would slaughter us in that category!
AliBoy wrote:
> I think Le Tissier should have got it.
What, best import?
> I think Le Tissier should have got it.
What, best import?
Ashley wrote:
There could be an award for
> nearly anything positive and they will always give it to man utd or
> maybe give arsenal the occasional one to avoid these accusations. The
> FA in this country just love to suck up to united.
I know one Chelsea could have...
*MOST* Foriegn imports! they'd win it for sure!
There could be an award for
> nearly anything positive and they will always give it to man utd or
> maybe give arsenal the occasional one to avoid these accusations. The
> FA in this country just love to suck up to united.
I know one Chelsea could have...
*MOST* Foriegn imports! they'd win it for sure!
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