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"The Man Utd Penalty count"

We posted on this earlier this season but it may just be me, but After Van Nistelrooys 3rd penalty in two games, this is starting to take the pisss again. They are quick to point out that van Nistelrooy has converted 18 or 19 penalties and not missed one, but not the fact that all those penalties have occured in 1.75 years. That is a rate of just over 10 penalties a season which if you think about it is half way to putting you a good way up the top scorers charts. I don't even think this accounts for all the penalties either, i remember Beckham taking one when Vaan Nistelrooy was burnt out at the end of last season and there are probably a few other ones i can't remember that were taken when he was off the pitch. I'm not saying they don't deserve them but it does seem that when ever there is an element of doubt the decision always seems to go the way of united.

If its a penalty then its a penalty and i dont think the referees intrepret this rule any differently... they would be repremanded by the FA if constant dubious decisions were awarded.

My personal defence for Man Utd obtaining high numbers of penalties compared to the likes of West Brom for example is simply that Man Utd have 10 outfoeld players that are all capable of wrong footing a defender or commiting a defender into a rash lunging tackle, or in some cases the defender simply has no choice to hack down a player who is about to 'pull the trigger'.

Man Utd have so much quality and alot of defences cant live with them and are almost forced to foul them in the penalty area either by means of a last ditch effort to prevent a certain goal or because they are just dazzled and instinctively leave a trailing leg out, i believe that 'if' a player is touched inside the penalty are it is his right to fall over if he wants... how many times do we hear commentators saying things like 'he was definately touched there and im surprised he stayed on his feet when he could have got a penalty' a foul in the area is a foul and if seen by the referee often results in a penalty, if Man Utd are past masters at this tactic then good for them, its their right to fall over if fouled. Thats my view on this.

he has 18 actually.

Which is exactly one third!

That ratio has only shot up becasue of the penalties coming thick and fast over the last couple weeks. I'm sure Van man will score more goals in open play during the last few weeks in the season. Hopefully starting by opening his account against Arsenal...

He seems to have a little problem in scoring goals against the premierships top teams, but has teams such as Juventus, Real Madrid, and Deportivo on his champions league account (and all from open play!!!!)

Unfortunately he only have 17 goals in the prem so it is over a third of his total

Or†ega wrote:

6. Which is nothing shocking in 33 games.
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Maybe by Man Uniteds standards! :P

SIDE NOTE: Would the Van Man be as deadly a striker if somebody else took the pens? It would take his goal-ratio down to the Nationwide.

:D

Thats 19 penalties since he signed last season! Not in the the bloody premiership this season! 6 have come from the spot kick this season in the premiership. 6. Which is nothing shocking in 33 games.

particularly why i said henry. i hope he wins it. me being an arsenal fan. shearer should come second and beattie an out right third. van nistelrooy done for: drugs/diving/fake passport+ other dodgyness.

Clazon wrote:

> 19 goals by penalties, what a jip for the golden boot. i hope henry
> holds him off.

Could be Beattie or Shearer.

the worst one was silvestre at real madrid (i know not premiership refereeing) but that was the worst ignored penalty i have seen for ages

so are we (arsenal) and newcastle, yet somehow- oh look, the refs looking the other way.

and one ref giving 6 pens all at old trafford. mmmm fair as fair can be. just luck i guess.

2 situations.

1) ipswich beating man u at the end of last season, referee has a perfect view of a dive by rvn and gives a pen which he scores. ipswich are then relegated.

2) minute 3, man u V west ham, defoe gets taken down by clumsy neville 2, nothing given.

19 goals by penalties, what a jip for the golden boot. i hope henry holds him off.

Yeah, one of the most attacking, but without big Ruud and his diving ability, they'd be nowhere.

:-)