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Just a little advice needed. I've been designing websites for years and am pretty well drilled on HTML, PHP, JavaScript, and a few other bits and pieces, but would like to know what is currently considered the best way of designing a website.
I've heard CSS being knocked around a little bit recently, is that being used as a way of designing a site?
What are your thoughts?
On the whole, frames are a disaster for everybody concerned.
> What res are you using cjh? I'm in 1024*768 and it looks cramped, but
> the adverts don't help. It only uses about 3/4 of my screen
> horizontally, I don't really know why it doesn't carry on going
> accross more, and reducing the need to scroll in the main frame.
I'm on 1024 * 768 and didn't think it looked to bad. All the content you wanted was in one section with one vertical scrollbar (for me anyway), as well as all the links and such being viewable.
I changed my settings to 800 * 600, and the site just fit in, however when clicking the left hand links, the menues which showed up went beond the page and didn't allow for scrolling, which isn't good.
>I don't really know why it doesn't carry on going
> accross more, and reducing the need to scroll in the main frame.
Oh, actually I answered that myself, it's (probably) for lower resolutions
You're also completely correct about browsers and screen sizes too, but an index page can be used to get the visitor to choose either a framed or non-framed section of the site based on their resolution (or, you could do this automatically with JavaScript, and get it to forward them to one section instantly - but this could cause problems in older browsers).
On the subject of browsers, with my website, the stats for user browsers are as follows:
Internet Explorer 6.x - 76.5 %
Internet Explorer 5.x - 20.6 %
Opera 7.x - 2.9 %
IE 6 and 5 make my site look identical. Admittedly there are some differences in opera, but my framed section still looks OK, and still makes it look perfectly visible.
What res are you using cjh? I'm in 1024*768 and it looks cramped, but the adverts don't help. It only uses about 3/4 of my screen horizontally, I don't really know why it doesn't carry on going accross more, and reducing the need to scroll in the main frame.
> But I will admit they can easily make a site look very bad. And
> cramped. Like www.csports.net
>
> But I'll find you an example of a site that looks cool with frames.
Christ on a bike, that's the most broken website I've ever seen!
Not sure what it would look like on a smaller res though.