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We've all heard about the Big Bang, and we've all heard about God creating Earth. But what was there before all that?
Lets look at the scientific end of things first.
Very basically and simply put, you have your gases floating about, they collide, they react, and bada boom, you have solid matter. Eventually this grows, as do the other planets in what would later be known as the 'Solar System'.
But where did those gases come from?
What was there before them?
An impossible question to answer, I agree. Firstly, the mind simply cannot comprehend 'nothingness'. Nothing? What is 'nothing'? There has to be something. Even in space, there is something. That is why it is black. But then, what if there was this 'nothing'. What colour would it be?
So many questions. Another thing is, the mind can't handle the thought of the size of the Universe.
What if you were to just keep floating, and floating, and floating?
What would happen?
Where would you end up?
Does it ever end?
The last question there, does it ever end. Again, the mind can't really handle this, because there is nothing in existence that never ends, except for time. When you really think about it, you begin to think of the Universes size, and it's just impossible to imagine.
Anyway, I've wandered off the original topic. Before the gases, what was there. And then, you could say, what was there before that, and where did they come from, and so on. You simply cannot answer with 'nothing', as really, when you think about it, there is no such thing as nothing. There always has to be something.
The Biblical view is very similar. God created the world, all living things etc. But where did He come from? If 'He' really exists. What was before Him? Was there 'nothing' out there, just pure nothing, and suddenly, he appeared? It really is again impossible to answer.
But then, has He just been around forever?
This brings us to another thing. Forever. Again, impossible to comprehend, as when you ask yourself, "When did forever begin", you just can't comment.
As you can see, an absolute mind boggling subject. No-one on this Earth can answer a single one of the above questions.
But your thoughts on this please, people.
What was there before it all?
Lets look at the scientific end of things first.
Very basically and simply put, you have your gases floating about, they collide, they react, and bada boom, you have solid matter. Eventually this grows, as do the other planets in what would later be known as the 'Solar System'.
But where did those gases come from?
What was there before them?
An impossible question to answer, I agree. Firstly, the mind simply cannot comprehend 'nothingness'. Nothing? What is 'nothing'? There has to be something. Even in space, there is something. That is why it is black. But then, what if there was this 'nothing'. What colour would it be?
So many questions. Another thing is, the mind can't handle the thought of the size of the Universe.
What if you were to just keep floating, and floating, and floating?
What would happen?
Where would you end up?
Does it ever end?
The last question there, does it ever end. Again, the mind can't really handle this, because there is nothing in existence that never ends, except for time. When you really think about it, you begin to think of the Universes size, and it's just impossible to imagine.
Anyway, I've wandered off the original topic. Before the gases, what was there. And then, you could say, what was there before that, and where did they come from, and so on. You simply cannot answer with 'nothing', as really, when you think about it, there is no such thing as nothing. There always has to be something.
The Biblical view is very similar. God created the world, all living things etc. But where did He come from? If 'He' really exists. What was before Him? Was there 'nothing' out there, just pure nothing, and suddenly, he appeared? It really is again impossible to answer.
But then, has He just been around forever?
This brings us to another thing. Forever. Again, impossible to comprehend, as when you ask yourself, "When did forever begin", you just can't comment.
As you can see, an absolute mind boggling subject. No-one on this Earth can answer a single one of the above questions.
But your thoughts on this please, people.
What was there before it all?
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> But your thoughts on this please, people.
Great thing about studying Mathematics is that in maths there's a thing called 'mathematical modelling' whereby you can describe everything using simple mathematical tools. Essentially, mathematics is just another language allowing you to describe things differently.
Study mathematics deeply enough, and you get to understand the neat mathematical model of the Universe as we know it, which enables you to overcome the traditional ways of looking at the issue like:
If you keep going on and on forever, would you hit a boundary? If so, what's on the other side of the boundary? What was there before the big bang? Where did the big bang take place? If the big bang was the start of space and time, how could there be a 'before' the big bang? What will happen if there's a big crunch? Will it affect my insurance premiums?
Thinking of the universe using the above questions as starting points throws you off the track. You have to approach it from another angle, and mathematics is neat in that it allows you to do that. So, essentially, I can explain the universe using equations (not perfectly, there's still bits left to tweak), that overcome the everyday barriers that our minds put in place trying to think about these issues.
If you want a very good layman's version of the subject, 'A Brief History of Time' by Stephen Hawking is the best place to start. Then if you want to delve deeper take a few years out from whatever you're doing and sign up to a MMath degree course with the Open University.
> But your thoughts on this please, people.
Great thing about studying Mathematics is that in maths there's a thing called 'mathematical modelling' whereby you can describe everything using simple mathematical tools. Essentially, mathematics is just another language allowing you to describe things differently.
Study mathematics deeply enough, and you get to understand the neat mathematical model of the Universe as we know it, which enables you to overcome the traditional ways of looking at the issue like:
If you keep going on and on forever, would you hit a boundary? If so, what's on the other side of the boundary? What was there before the big bang? Where did the big bang take place? If the big bang was the start of space and time, how could there be a 'before' the big bang? What will happen if there's a big crunch? Will it affect my insurance premiums?
Thinking of the universe using the above questions as starting points throws you off the track. You have to approach it from another angle, and mathematics is neat in that it allows you to do that. So, essentially, I can explain the universe using equations (not perfectly, there's still bits left to tweak), that overcome the everyday barriers that our minds put in place trying to think about these issues.
If you want a very good layman's version of the subject, 'A Brief History of Time' by Stephen Hawking is the best place to start. Then if you want to delve deeper take a few years out from whatever you're doing and sign up to a MMath degree course with the Open University.
I would often contemplate "what is beyond deep space, is there some kind of boundry or does it go on forever?" or "what started the whole universe and what was around before it?", but then my head would just hurt :s
They're some of the universal question man would like to know the answer to, but whose pedestrian brain will never truly find the answer.
They're some of the universal question man would like to know the answer to, but whose pedestrian brain will never truly find the answer.
We've all heard about the Big Bang, and we've all heard about God creating Earth. But what was there before all that?
Lets look at the scientific end of things first.
Very basically and simply put, you have your gases floating about, they collide, they react, and bada boom, you have solid matter. Eventually this grows, as do the other planets in what would later be known as the 'Solar System'.
But where did those gases come from?
What was there before them?
An impossible question to answer, I agree. Firstly, the mind simply cannot comprehend 'nothingness'. Nothing? What is 'nothing'? There has to be something. Even in space, there is something. That is why it is black. But then, what if there was this 'nothing'. What colour would it be?
So many questions. Another thing is, the mind can't handle the thought of the size of the Universe.
What if you were to just keep floating, and floating, and floating?
What would happen?
Where would you end up?
Does it ever end?
The last question there, does it ever end. Again, the mind can't really handle this, because there is nothing in existence that never ends, except for time. When you really think about it, you begin to think of the Universes size, and it's just impossible to imagine.
Anyway, I've wandered off the original topic. Before the gases, what was there. And then, you could say, what was there before that, and where did they come from, and so on. You simply cannot answer with 'nothing', as really, when you think about it, there is no such thing as nothing. There always has to be something.
The Biblical view is very similar. God created the world, all living things etc. But where did He come from? If 'He' really exists. What was before Him? Was there 'nothing' out there, just pure nothing, and suddenly, he appeared? It really is again impossible to answer.
But then, has He just been around forever?
This brings us to another thing. Forever. Again, impossible to comprehend, as when you ask yourself, "When did forever begin", you just can't comment.
As you can see, an absolute mind boggling subject. No-one on this Earth can answer a single one of the above questions.
But your thoughts on this please, people.
What was there before it all?
Lets look at the scientific end of things first.
Very basically and simply put, you have your gases floating about, they collide, they react, and bada boom, you have solid matter. Eventually this grows, as do the other planets in what would later be known as the 'Solar System'.
But where did those gases come from?
What was there before them?
An impossible question to answer, I agree. Firstly, the mind simply cannot comprehend 'nothingness'. Nothing? What is 'nothing'? There has to be something. Even in space, there is something. That is why it is black. But then, what if there was this 'nothing'. What colour would it be?
So many questions. Another thing is, the mind can't handle the thought of the size of the Universe.
What if you were to just keep floating, and floating, and floating?
What would happen?
Where would you end up?
Does it ever end?
The last question there, does it ever end. Again, the mind can't really handle this, because there is nothing in existence that never ends, except for time. When you really think about it, you begin to think of the Universes size, and it's just impossible to imagine.
Anyway, I've wandered off the original topic. Before the gases, what was there. And then, you could say, what was there before that, and where did they come from, and so on. You simply cannot answer with 'nothing', as really, when you think about it, there is no such thing as nothing. There always has to be something.
The Biblical view is very similar. God created the world, all living things etc. But where did He come from? If 'He' really exists. What was before Him? Was there 'nothing' out there, just pure nothing, and suddenly, he appeared? It really is again impossible to answer.
But then, has He just been around forever?
This brings us to another thing. Forever. Again, impossible to comprehend, as when you ask yourself, "When did forever begin", you just can't comment.
As you can see, an absolute mind boggling subject. No-one on this Earth can answer a single one of the above questions.
But your thoughts on this please, people.
What was there before it all?
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