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Once again ...
There was a time when I thought I knew a fair bit about computers, that was until Xbox LIVE came onto the scene! You guys have been immensely helpful thus far, but i've a new problem which I did TRY and get an answer to a few days back, but probably didn't put the question forward properly.
I have everything neccessary to get going. My PC is linked up to Freeola's Broadband service (which I think MAY become relevant at a later stage in my question) via a USB external ASDL modem. I have also installed a PCI NIC Ethernet (LAN adapter?) card.
Now, from my understanding all that is left to do to get Xbox LIVE up and running is to setup Internet Connection Sharing on my PC (running Windows 98 SE) which is where my problem comes in.
Going through the wizard to set this up i'm asked whether my connection to the internet is through a "dial-up-connection" or a "high speed connection". Obviously it is a high-speed connection, but when I select this option I am presented with a list of two possible "adapters". One reads "dial-up-adapter#1" and one "aol adapter" (I think it's important to note i'm not actually on AOL Broadband, but I do still have an AOL account which I think might refer to this adapter thing).
If I select the "dial-up-adapter#1" it tells me that this connection ISN'T a high-speed connection and that the settings will be changed accordingly (so why is it displayed in the high-speed connections tab!?).
Anyhow, I CAN successfully choose the AOL adapter (what relevance this is i've no idea but I thought it might be worth mentioning).
Returning to the front page of the wizard, I also selected the dial-up option to see what adapters were available for selection there. Again, a random dial-up adapter, an AOL adapter (although this one mentions dial-up in it's name and I recall seeing a connected adapter when browsing through my DIAL-UP-NETWORKING folder), AND AccessRunner DSL (which anyone with Freeola Broadband will know is the connection to that account).
Now, when I setup my Freeola broadband the technical support guy said that theoretically, your computer "dials-up" through a dial-up connection screen, although it isn't actually dialling anywhere, this is just used to log-on to the network. As such, the AccessRunner DSL thing is located in the DIAL-UP-NETWORKING folder, even though your actually accessing a high-speed connection rather than a standard dial-up connection.
So, this leads me to beleive that the computer RECOGNISES my broadband connection (AccessRunnerDSL) as a dial-up connection, even though it is actually a broadband connection.
So, theoretically, does this then mean that in the wizard for setting up Internet Connection Sharing if I select DIAL-UP CONNECTION as opposed to high-speed connection (only because in DIAL-UP CONNECTION I can see the connection i would usually use to access the internet) and then select AccessRunner DSL, it is still registering with the computer that what we actually have is a broadband connection?
Confused? Ditto. I'm sure SOMEONE out there can understand what i'm asking (essentially, because freeola broadband is connected via a dial-up adapter does this affect me sharing my connection with my Xbox), and will be able to help me make sense of this mess!
Please put my mind at ease that this is going to work now i've invested quite an amount of money on getting Xbox LIVE up and running!
Thanks a lot for your help ...
There was a time when I thought I knew a fair bit about computers, that was until Xbox LIVE came onto the scene! You guys have been immensely helpful thus far, but i've a new problem which I did TRY and get an answer to a few days back, but probably didn't put the question forward properly.
I have everything neccessary to get going. My PC is linked up to Freeola's Broadband service (which I think MAY become relevant at a later stage in my question) via a USB external ASDL modem. I have also installed a PCI NIC Ethernet (LAN adapter?) card.
Now, from my understanding all that is left to do to get Xbox LIVE up and running is to setup Internet Connection Sharing on my PC (running Windows 98 SE) which is where my problem comes in.
Going through the wizard to set this up i'm asked whether my connection to the internet is through a "dial-up-connection" or a "high speed connection". Obviously it is a high-speed connection, but when I select this option I am presented with a list of two possible "adapters". One reads "dial-up-adapter#1" and one "aol adapter" (I think it's important to note i'm not actually on AOL Broadband, but I do still have an AOL account which I think might refer to this adapter thing).
If I select the "dial-up-adapter#1" it tells me that this connection ISN'T a high-speed connection and that the settings will be changed accordingly (so why is it displayed in the high-speed connections tab!?).
Anyhow, I CAN successfully choose the AOL adapter (what relevance this is i've no idea but I thought it might be worth mentioning).
Returning to the front page of the wizard, I also selected the dial-up option to see what adapters were available for selection there. Again, a random dial-up adapter, an AOL adapter (although this one mentions dial-up in it's name and I recall seeing a connected adapter when browsing through my DIAL-UP-NETWORKING folder), AND AccessRunner DSL (which anyone with Freeola Broadband will know is the connection to that account).
Now, when I setup my Freeola broadband the technical support guy said that theoretically, your computer "dials-up" through a dial-up connection screen, although it isn't actually dialling anywhere, this is just used to log-on to the network. As such, the AccessRunner DSL thing is located in the DIAL-UP-NETWORKING folder, even though your actually accessing a high-speed connection rather than a standard dial-up connection.
So, this leads me to beleive that the computer RECOGNISES my broadband connection (AccessRunnerDSL) as a dial-up connection, even though it is actually a broadband connection.
So, theoretically, does this then mean that in the wizard for setting up Internet Connection Sharing if I select DIAL-UP CONNECTION as opposed to high-speed connection (only because in DIAL-UP CONNECTION I can see the connection i would usually use to access the internet) and then select AccessRunner DSL, it is still registering with the computer that what we actually have is a broadband connection?
Confused? Ditto. I'm sure SOMEONE out there can understand what i'm asking (essentially, because freeola broadband is connected via a dial-up adapter does this affect me sharing my connection with my Xbox), and will be able to help me make sense of this mess!
Please put my mind at ease that this is going to work now i've invested quite an amount of money on getting Xbox LIVE up and running!
Thanks a lot for your help ...
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Once again ...
There was a time when I thought I knew a fair bit about computers, that was until Xbox LIVE came onto the scene! You guys have been immensely helpful thus far, but i've a new problem which I did TRY and get an answer to a few days back, but probably didn't put the question forward properly.
I have everything neccessary to get going. My PC is linked up to Freeola's Broadband service (which I think MAY become relevant at a later stage in my question) via a USB external ASDL modem. I have also installed a PCI NIC Ethernet (LAN adapter?) card.
Now, from my understanding all that is left to do to get Xbox LIVE up and running is to setup Internet Connection Sharing on my PC (running Windows 98 SE) which is where my problem comes in.
Going through the wizard to set this up i'm asked whether my connection to the internet is through a "dial-up-connection" or a "high speed connection". Obviously it is a high-speed connection, but when I select this option I am presented with a list of two possible "adapters". One reads "dial-up-adapter#1" and one "aol adapter" (I think it's important to note i'm not actually on AOL Broadband, but I do still have an AOL account which I think might refer to this adapter thing).
If I select the "dial-up-adapter#1" it tells me that this connection ISN'T a high-speed connection and that the settings will be changed accordingly (so why is it displayed in the high-speed connections tab!?).
Anyhow, I CAN successfully choose the AOL adapter (what relevance this is i've no idea but I thought it might be worth mentioning).
Returning to the front page of the wizard, I also selected the dial-up option to see what adapters were available for selection there. Again, a random dial-up adapter, an AOL adapter (although this one mentions dial-up in it's name and I recall seeing a connected adapter when browsing through my DIAL-UP-NETWORKING folder), AND AccessRunner DSL (which anyone with Freeola Broadband will know is the connection to that account).
Now, when I setup my Freeola broadband the technical support guy said that theoretically, your computer "dials-up" through a dial-up connection screen, although it isn't actually dialling anywhere, this is just used to log-on to the network. As such, the AccessRunner DSL thing is located in the DIAL-UP-NETWORKING folder, even though your actually accessing a high-speed connection rather than a standard dial-up connection.
So, this leads me to beleive that the computer RECOGNISES my broadband connection (AccessRunnerDSL) as a dial-up connection, even though it is actually a broadband connection.
So, theoretically, does this then mean that in the wizard for setting up Internet Connection Sharing if I select DIAL-UP CONNECTION as opposed to high-speed connection (only because in DIAL-UP CONNECTION I can see the connection i would usually use to access the internet) and then select AccessRunner DSL, it is still registering with the computer that what we actually have is a broadband connection?
Confused? Ditto. I'm sure SOMEONE out there can understand what i'm asking (essentially, because freeola broadband is connected via a dial-up adapter does this affect me sharing my connection with my Xbox), and will be able to help me make sense of this mess!
Please put my mind at ease that this is going to work now i've invested quite an amount of money on getting Xbox LIVE up and running!
Thanks a lot for your help ...
There was a time when I thought I knew a fair bit about computers, that was until Xbox LIVE came onto the scene! You guys have been immensely helpful thus far, but i've a new problem which I did TRY and get an answer to a few days back, but probably didn't put the question forward properly.
I have everything neccessary to get going. My PC is linked up to Freeola's Broadband service (which I think MAY become relevant at a later stage in my question) via a USB external ASDL modem. I have also installed a PCI NIC Ethernet (LAN adapter?) card.
Now, from my understanding all that is left to do to get Xbox LIVE up and running is to setup Internet Connection Sharing on my PC (running Windows 98 SE) which is where my problem comes in.
Going through the wizard to set this up i'm asked whether my connection to the internet is through a "dial-up-connection" or a "high speed connection". Obviously it is a high-speed connection, but when I select this option I am presented with a list of two possible "adapters". One reads "dial-up-adapter#1" and one "aol adapter" (I think it's important to note i'm not actually on AOL Broadband, but I do still have an AOL account which I think might refer to this adapter thing).
If I select the "dial-up-adapter#1" it tells me that this connection ISN'T a high-speed connection and that the settings will be changed accordingly (so why is it displayed in the high-speed connections tab!?).
Anyhow, I CAN successfully choose the AOL adapter (what relevance this is i've no idea but I thought it might be worth mentioning).
Returning to the front page of the wizard, I also selected the dial-up option to see what adapters were available for selection there. Again, a random dial-up adapter, an AOL adapter (although this one mentions dial-up in it's name and I recall seeing a connected adapter when browsing through my DIAL-UP-NETWORKING folder), AND AccessRunner DSL (which anyone with Freeola Broadband will know is the connection to that account).
Now, when I setup my Freeola broadband the technical support guy said that theoretically, your computer "dials-up" through a dial-up connection screen, although it isn't actually dialling anywhere, this is just used to log-on to the network. As such, the AccessRunner DSL thing is located in the DIAL-UP-NETWORKING folder, even though your actually accessing a high-speed connection rather than a standard dial-up connection.
So, this leads me to beleive that the computer RECOGNISES my broadband connection (AccessRunnerDSL) as a dial-up connection, even though it is actually a broadband connection.
So, theoretically, does this then mean that in the wizard for setting up Internet Connection Sharing if I select DIAL-UP CONNECTION as opposed to high-speed connection (only because in DIAL-UP CONNECTION I can see the connection i would usually use to access the internet) and then select AccessRunner DSL, it is still registering with the computer that what we actually have is a broadband connection?
Confused? Ditto. I'm sure SOMEONE out there can understand what i'm asking (essentially, because freeola broadband is connected via a dial-up adapter does this affect me sharing my connection with my Xbox), and will be able to help me make sense of this mess!
Please put my mind at ease that this is going to work now i've invested quite an amount of money on getting Xbox LIVE up and running!
Thanks a lot for your help ...
ADH,
I'm in the process of writing some substantial documentation for customers purchasing the Gamecube adaptors or Xbox live starter kits and one thing of note is that I'm recommending that people don't use Internet Connection Sharing unless they are using Windows 2000 or above.
My limited experience of sharing in 98se (and indeed ME) was a disaster and I wouldn't dream of leading any of our customers down that path.
Under 2000 and XP though it seems to work like a dream.
Having said that, I'm pretty sure it's the dial-up connection you need to share because as you mention, this is the logon method for ADSL connections (by the way, all ISPs use this method for USB connection).
I'd suggest that you see if you can borrow a laptop or another PC from somewhere and see if that can share the connection. I would imagine it'll be a lot easier to diagnose the connection sharing on another PC than on the Xbox which is limited in what it can tell you.
Good luck anyway,
Danny
I'm in the process of writing some substantial documentation for customers purchasing the Gamecube adaptors or Xbox live starter kits and one thing of note is that I'm recommending that people don't use Internet Connection Sharing unless they are using Windows 2000 or above.
My limited experience of sharing in 98se (and indeed ME) was a disaster and I wouldn't dream of leading any of our customers down that path.
Under 2000 and XP though it seems to work like a dream.
Having said that, I'm pretty sure it's the dial-up connection you need to share because as you mention, this is the logon method for ADSL connections (by the way, all ISPs use this method for USB connection).
I'd suggest that you see if you can borrow a laptop or another PC from somewhere and see if that can share the connection. I would imagine it'll be a lot easier to diagnose the connection sharing on another PC than on the Xbox which is limited in what it can tell you.
Good luck anyway,
Danny
Again, well done on trying to help other people help you, rather than the usual "It don work wot do I do" crap we get.
But what you are asking us is "I have the option selecting dial-up then AccessRunnerDSL, none of the opther options worked, should I try this one?" I think in your situation I would just bite the bullet and bleeding-well try it out for myself. I don't know what Windows 98 classifies to be a 'high speed' connection, and how it tells the difference between that and a low speed connection, because the only difference is the dialling protocol afaik.
If you can get connection sharing in some way associated with your ADSL, it'll probably work.
But what you are asking us is "I have the option selecting dial-up then AccessRunnerDSL, none of the opther options worked, should I try this one?" I think in your situation I would just bite the bullet and bleeding-well try it out for myself. I don't know what Windows 98 classifies to be a 'high speed' connection, and how it tells the difference between that and a low speed connection, because the only difference is the dialling protocol afaik.
If you can get connection sharing in some way associated with your ADSL, it'll probably work.
Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate your help.
A fair few people have now said to me that Internet Connection Sharing in Windows 98 isn't an ideal solution to playing online, and I only wish Microsoft had been a little more forthcoming with that information. Their official word is that it works fine!
I'll most definately have to look into upgrading to Windows XP at some stage.
Thanks again for your help ...
A fair few people have now said to me that Internet Connection Sharing in Windows 98 isn't an ideal solution to playing online, and I only wish Microsoft had been a little more forthcoming with that information. Their official word is that it works fine!
I'll most definately have to look into upgrading to Windows XP at some stage.
Thanks again for your help ...
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Okay, what exactly will that do for me?
Also, i've been thinking about other solutions so that I don't have to use Win 98 for my connection. I do have a laptop with Windows 2000 on it. Is it possible to buy network cards (NIC's) for laptops? I know you can get wireless ones which I imagine will plug into a laptop the same as a PC, but what about internal or USB based NIC's?
Also, i've been thinking about other solutions so that I don't have to use Win 98 for my connection. I do have a laptop with Windows 2000 on it. Is it possible to buy network cards (NIC's) for laptops? I know you can get wireless ones which I imagine will plug into a laptop the same as a PC, but what about internal or USB based NIC's?
ADH wrote:
> Okay, what exactly will that do for me?
>
> Also, i've been thinking about other solutions so that I don't have to
> use Win 98 for my connection. I do have a laptop with Windows 2000 on
> it. Is it possible to buy network cards (NIC's) for laptops? I know
> you can get wireless ones which I imagine will plug into a laptop the
> same as a PC, but what about internal or USB based NIC's?
You can get PCMCIA network cards for laptops, but they're not cheap (well, compared with PCI cards for normal desktops). As a complete guess be prepared to part with £20-£30 for one.
Windows 2000 is more stable than 98 (and therefore a better server OS), but if you can't get your connection sharing working at all then it probably isn't the operating system at fault. I would persevere with 98, it might not be too bad once you get it working.
> Okay, what exactly will that do for me?
>
> Also, i've been thinking about other solutions so that I don't have to
> use Win 98 for my connection. I do have a laptop with Windows 2000 on
> it. Is it possible to buy network cards (NIC's) for laptops? I know
> you can get wireless ones which I imagine will plug into a laptop the
> same as a PC, but what about internal or USB based NIC's?
You can get PCMCIA network cards for laptops, but they're not cheap (well, compared with PCI cards for normal desktops). As a complete guess be prepared to part with £20-£30 for one.
Windows 2000 is more stable than 98 (and therefore a better server OS), but if you can't get your connection sharing working at all then it probably isn't the operating system at fault. I would persevere with 98, it might not be too bad once you get it working.
ADSL connects as a dial up, so thats right. I think it should work fine on the internet sharing options and with all the kit you've invested in, so I would'nt worry.
A fair few people have said Win98 isn't ideal for this sort of thing, so taking your point into consideration (e.g on the basis that I AM able to get ICS to work with Win98 first), would it be recommendable to upgrade?
Unfortunately I don't have a copy of Win 2000, but I do have a copy of Win ME which my dad has on his laptop. Is that any good for this sort of thing, or should I just stick with Win98?
Cheers.
Unfortunately I don't have a copy of Win 2000, but I do have a copy of Win ME which my dad has on his laptop. Is that any good for this sort of thing, or should I just stick with Win98?
Cheers.
ADH wrote:
> A fair few people have said Win98 isn't ideal for this sort of thing,
> so taking your point into consideration (e.g on the basis that I AM
> able to get ICS to work with Win98 first), would it be recommendable
> to upgrade?
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a copy of Win 2000, but I do have a copy of
> Win ME which my dad has on his laptop. Is that any good for this sort
> of thing, or should I just stick with Win98?
>
> Cheers.
I have windows ME. Ill check if you like if you post were I can find the connection sharing options.
> A fair few people have said Win98 isn't ideal for this sort of thing,
> so taking your point into consideration (e.g on the basis that I AM
> able to get ICS to work with Win98 first), would it be recommendable
> to upgrade?
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a copy of Win 2000, but I do have a copy of
> Win ME which my dad has on his laptop. Is that any good for this sort
> of thing, or should I just stick with Win98?
>
> Cheers.
I have windows ME. Ill check if you like if you post were I can find the connection sharing options.
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