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Wed 05/03/03 at 20:45
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"We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine, and the machine is bleeding to death" - "The Dead Flag Blues" by "Godspeed You! Black Emperor"

This contains anti popular belief, so if you are going to say, "There are people with beliefs on this forum you know..." then just press the undo button on your AOL browser. This is about me, you may gain something from my opinions, and you may not, so don't read if you aren't going to be open-minded. This is what I believe, I've thought about it, and it critisises a lot of people's views. It's a warning, like in the worst of porn sites.

Have you ever had the feeling that your mind won't stop spinning? You try to get to sleep, but some sub-conscious problem keeps on coming back to keep you awake whilst not giving itself away? Have you ever felt that you could be better, before bringing yourself back to harsh reality? Have you ever known that what you are doing at the time would be regretted later but still continued?

The burden of life was never mine for the choosing. An increasingly crushing thought, is that our parents only had us, to make themselves get more enjoyment out of life, unless you were an accident, in which case the parents are just trying to make the best out of a bad situation. If you deny this, you're only lying to yourself. After all, everything is for personal gain. Everything. You help a friend because it will make you feel better knowing that you've changed something. You give money to Oxfam to make you think that you're a nice person.

I have told a Christian my beliefs. She said that I'm ignoring all the good points of a religion, and adding bad things. To me, this just adds to my confidence in beliefs. After all, everything will be OK if you're a good boy for Santa, and if your not, then you'll get a lump of coal. If I didn't choose to take part in a little test by a loser who people think is loving, then I don't want to be a part of it. The fundamental flaws in my previous Christian life, were to ignore the contradictions in the "good book", it will make you feel better guaranteed, just like Bridget Jones' Diary, the feel good film of the century. God is the great judge. Who voted him in? He's a dictator, if he exists in the Christian sense, which Euro voters say "NO!" to. "He's a PERFECT dictator" proclaimed said Christian. Perfection? Perfection? Think about it, is it truly possible? Lord; take me away from the monotony of my life through me believing in you. To me, religion is equal to communism, in that it is promised that everyone has a role in life and everything will end out good. It's a nice theory, but in practice, reality sets in.

(Only read this bit if you understand limited biology)

It's almost impossible to understand neurology and believe in an afterlife (for me). Your mind is a complex web of neural reactions. Electrons flow through the axons reaching other axons, which will quickly reach your brain/spine. When you die, these stop. We're a fairly complex robot, but we wear out and then break. Your personality is decided through your genetics, a nice parent made code, longer than how many decimal places of pi people have found out. Your individuality is the combination of two people's individuality. But we can learn to ignore all these things and make humans sound great and all for helping eachother, and as Barney so proves my point, "I love you, you love me, we're a happy family".

So, the worlds a depressing place and there's nothing after for me. I might as well get the best out of the only life I have. But I don't want to degrade the quality of life of someone else, because if I believe it's the only life we ever have, all the more reason to try and make yours and others life better.

How can I enjoy myself then? By helping other people, thus making me feel better, but also through getting rich and being one of the many people drawn into consumerism. It's fantastic, it draws attention away from the fact that we're going to die, and gives us pleasure, thinking that our lives may actually be alright.

It isn't lying to myself, because I still acknowledge what the world is, but I still want to enjoy myself as much as I can, making the best out of a bad situation.
Fri 07/03/03 at 09:13
"Darkness, always"
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What's so terrifying about death?

If you lived forever, eventually you'd just be bored. Death is a guarantee that life will never become an eternity of listless monotony.

Obviously, it still brings up the questions of "what is life all about?" and such, but to me, these aren't important questions.
Fri 07/03/03 at 02:20
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"smile, it's free"
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Melancholy wrote:
> (Only read this bit if you understand limited biology)
>
> It's almost impossible to understand neurology and believe in an
> afterlife (for me). Your mind is a complex web of neural reactions.
> Electrons flow through the axons reaching other axons, which will
> quickly reach your brain/spine. When you die, these stop. We're a
> fairly complex robot, but we wear out and then break.


Many years ago, this is what killed my imagination. It killed my ideas about an afterlife, and every thought which said 'maybe'. This is why death truly terrifies me. This is why I hope against all probability that somehow I'll live forever. This is why I desperately hope that reality isn't real.

You're straped to a conveyer belt rolling inexorably towards a mincing machine. How can you possibly be happy?
Thu 06/03/03 at 23:09
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
1) I'm clearly too fast for you cretins. Try as you may, you'll never be able to put me down.

2) I'm clearly too witty for SR, and will have to restrict the sheer magnificence of my posts to avoid the servers choking on them in future.


Goodnight all.
Thu 06/03/03 at 22:58
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"Selected"
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what the hell happened to the end of the other post?
Thu 06/03/03 at 22:58
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"sdomehtongng"
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Ah, you explained before I could deliver my 'witty' comments.

:-D
Thu 06/03/03 at 22:57
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"sdomehtongng"
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> But yeah, religion is gay, and not terrificly appropriate for modern
> day society. Today's citizens need either the second
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What crazy opinions you have, IB. :-)
Thu 06/03/03 at 22:56
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Now that is wierd. The rest of the post should have looked like this:



Today's citizens need either the second coming, or some scientific breakthrough to give us the meaning of life. Because, to be frank, a 2000 year old parchment just isn't likely to be trusted by a generation of people who will insist that anything older than 6 months is out of date and not particularly well done.

I hope this post makes some sense to you, as I've drank a not inconsiderable amount of wine tonight before sitting here to write this, and I'm in doubt that some stinking peon will go through this with a fine toothed comb looking for typos, but I promised I'd read this, and this is my lengthy, if mildly intoxicated response.
Thu 06/03/03 at 22:55
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
I have to say that I agree with you to some certain extent. The extent being the idea that religions is something of a misleading falsity.

However, my views do differ on a number of points:

1) While it may be said, in some cases, that children are brought into the world for the sole purpose of preserving marriages, or even by simple accident, I like to think that the majority of children are brought into homes where a couple have love to share, and want to share that with something that can be as close to them as they are to eachother. This is not the self-centred breeding you depict, and in a world crowded with pessimism, sometimes the happier side of life is worth taking time to look at.

2) Not everything in life is for personal gain. This is why the dictionary includes a very important word; sacrifice. The very essence of charity depends on this word. Sure, while the vast majority of people making their way around western civilisation will, at best, throw a few old bits of clothing in the general direction of Oxfam or BHF, to assume that that is what everyone does is a mistake. There are people willing to sacrifice time, money or even their lives in the name of someone else's cause.

It's like the difference between love and infatuation. When infatuated, you might spend some money, you might dedicate some time, you might make a few choices you otherwise wouldn't, but in the end it's because you like someone, and you want something from them. When in love, you're likely to spend more, give more and compromise more, with far less expected in return, if you expect anything. People sacrifice jobs for love, some people sacrifice lives. That, to me, is the least selfish act any life respecting person can perform.


3) Our personalities ar not entirely dictated by our genes. Obviously, genetics dictates a certain degree of what we will develop to become, but to me, that's more what I would call "traits" and not actual personality. For example, genetics could make you intelligent, but it can't make you caring, or compassionate. It can make you prone to aggression, but it can't make you a serial rapist, or a terrorist.

Certain very crucial aspects of what we are are dictated by the environment in which we grow up, and this links back to the idea of a loving household. Obviously, in some households, where the child is a mistake, or a last ditch attempt to salvage a dying relationship, chances are you personality will diverge from the norm, but provided there is enough love and sensibility in the household, a decent personality should develop.


But yeah, religion is gay, and not terrificly appropriate for modern day society. Today's citizens need either the second coming%2/B ?._I!'"zSiޚDeڝ_ߦïI NWU`XeajkV}W%p!W;mwmr HJ{n^H;knkQ􂸧^}!#U 2ԣ sѩ*A
Thu 06/03/03 at 12:43
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"Must be Parkinson's"
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I rest my case...
Wed 05/03/03 at 21:23
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"Must be Parkinson's"
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Probably should have had a more popular orientated title.

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