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Wed 05/03/03 at 18:57
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I've never really expressed how I feel about The Lord of the Rings before - so I thought I would make this post.
Never have I been so angry coming out of a cinema before. Why? I didn't know that I had to wait a year to find out what happens next! The Lord of the Rings are two of the best films I have ever seen and the third will be even better. After leabing the cinema I made a big decision: I read the books. And these books are the best books I've ever read. They have everything - Action, suspense, horror, and even romance. The Lord of the Rings covers every topic.
JRR Tolkin spent half of his life working on The Lord of the Rings and it shows. The newspapers stated "The English speaking world is divided into two groups - those who have read The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, and those who are goind to" And I think I agree
The films are great too. The best film I have ever seen is The Two Towers, and secon is The Fellowship of the Ring. The Return of the Ring will be the best though.
There's one thing that people think they understand but actually they don't. And I thought I did aswell until I heard a song called "Gollum's Song" And then I understood. The thing people don't understand is Gollum. Frodo and Bilbo feel pity for him and so dose Gandalf. But why should we feel pity for this misrable monster? Because he has never been loved. Think about it - Gollum was kicked out of his village and named Gollum. He was left to die in the wilderness. But it wasn't his fault, it was the fault of The Ring. And Gollum himself, because who we really feel pity for is Smeagol. People kicked at him, spat at him and never felt anything for him. Gollum made Smeagol kill his cousin, it wasn't his fault. And then he was forced to run from the sun in the Misty Mountans for five hundrad years. Nobody was there for him. Can you imagine being alone in a dark cave for five hundrad years? That's why Gollum is the way he is.
Let's talk about The Ring itself now. The Ring makes you want it and to use it, but if you do then it will bend whatever you do to do evil. And everyone wants this Ring. But no matter what, if you use it then Sauron get's it. If Sauron gets it, Middle-Earth is his and he cannot be overrun. So what would you do if you had The Ring in your hand facing Mount Doom? Would you destroy it. We're lucky that The Ring is in the hands of a Hobbit - Hobbits show resistance against The Ring. But they still feel the same way.
That's part of the reason why the journy into Mordor is hopeless. Also, imagine going into Mordor. Orcs everywhere and The Eye of Sauron watching. How on earth can you get The Ring into Mount Doom with that?
The story opens bright and cheery to show things are going to get dark...very dark. Starting so bright and cheery and then going into dark has a great effect.
And so this is only part of the reason why I think The Lord of the Rings is the greatest thing to exist. Only part of it becuase when your faced with something so great words can't even describe it.
Tue 11/03/03 at 20:26
"Tagline"
Posts: 51
Cyclone wrote:
> Thats why the series rules.
>
> Like the Battle Of Un-Numbered Tears, or Nirnaeth Arnoediad. The
> largest ever attempt at destroying Morgoths power. But it fails.
> Because men are men, elves are eleves, dwarves are dwarves, and
> Morgoth was the first god.
>
> The heroics involved are not of the usual 'save the world' type. They
> are small, and Frodos case is exceptional, but even he pays the price.
> The world is tinged with tragedy. But what true world isn't?

Actually they beat Morgoroth, but Sauron- Morgorth's right hand man, will not except his new place so turns back to evil.
Mon 10/03/03 at 14:09
"Darth Vader 3442321"
Posts: 4,031
cookie monster wrote:
> The sagacious one wrote:
> Mount Doom is not an "open top" volcano
>
> What makes you say that?

Pg 567 Return of the Kings

Frodo lay on the steep crevise, exhuasted from his slow, wearsome progress. He looked to the pinnacle of Mount Doom and thought to himself "That's definitley not an open top volcano, and I'm jiggered if me and Sam can find the entrance to this fissure".
Mon 10/03/03 at 14:09
"Darth Vader 3442321"
Posts: 4,031
cookie monster wrote:
> The sagacious one wrote:
> Mount Doom is not an "open top" volcano
>
> What makes you say that?

Pg 567 Return of the Kings

Frodo lay on the steep crevise, exhuasted from his slow, wearsome progress. He looked to the pinnacle of Mount Doom and thought to himself "That's definitely not an open top volcano, and I'm jiggered if me and Sam can find the entrance to this fissure".
Mon 10/03/03 at 13:47
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"+34 Intellect"
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The sagacious one wrote:
> Mount Doom is not an "open top" volcano

What makes you say that?
Mon 10/03/03 at 13:45
"Darth Vader 3442321"
Posts: 4,031
cookie monster wrote:
> <=îl?é® BüLLé† wrote:
> There is actually romance in all of them, except the hobbit. Aragorn
> and Arwen and Faramir and Eowyn. If you have read he hobbit, and
> I've
> read all of them, you may wonder why Gandaly doesnt just get the
> army
> of Eagles back again so Frodo can just fly into Mordor and drop the
> ring in. And why don't treebeard and his crew do more than destroy
> Isenguard? They could take on Mordor too. Kill a couple of thusand
> orcs, then go home!
>
> A) Its not the Eagles problem, and Gandalf thought it would be taking
> advantage of them.

Mount Doom is not an "open top" volcano and thus this act would be impossible, I rather suspect that the Winged Nazgul would also have some influence over this course of action...

> B) Treebeard and the other Ents only destroyed Isengard because
> Saruman had destoyed their friends, Sauron had done them no harm, and
> thus was not their problem.

20-30 Ents against Trolls, massive armies of Orc, Goblins and Evil Men? They'd never get beyond the Blackgate. I hope that Jackson has altered the final battle though, to include them in it. Ents vs Trolls would be akin to Ali (McBeal) vs Frasier.
Sun 09/03/03 at 13:05
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"Chris Morris"
Posts: 259
the saiyan wrote:
> do you know what happens in the third movie then and what do you think
> of the music thats on it

Although I wouldn't go out and buy it, I like the sound track when I'm watching the movie. And although someone else might I'm not gonna spoil The Return of The KING (See I can say it!) for you, All I have to say is the film will be the greatest EVER! And I'm not just saying that, It'll probably win LOADS of Oscars.
Sun 09/03/03 at 12:19
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do you know what happens in the third movie then and what do you think of the music thats on it
Sat 08/03/03 at 22:50
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
Thats why the series rules.

Like the Battle Of Un-Numbered Tears, or Nirnaeth Arnoediad. The largest ever attempt at destroying Morgoths power. But it fails. Because men are men, elves are eleves, dwarves are dwarves, and Morgoth was the first god.

The heroics involved are not of the usual 'save the world' type. They are small, and Frodos case is exceptional, but even he pays the price. The world is tinged with tragedy. But what true world isn't?
Sat 08/03/03 at 20:25
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<=îl?é® BüLLé† wrote:
> Well the eagles are wusses then! And as for the Ents, it's not as if
> Sauron had been completely supportive of them,and look at Mordor, it
> must have been once, and now look!

No, but the Ents have been alive for many years, longer than men themselves. As such they do not concern themselves with the doings of men, and who can blame them, why should a peaceful people trouble themselves with the squabbles of lesser beings?
Sat 08/03/03 at 18:30
"Tagline"
Posts: 51
Well the eagles are wusses then! And as for the Ents, it's not as if Sauron had been completely supportive of them,and look at Mordor, it must have been once, and now look!

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