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Sat 01/03/03 at 20:56
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I always seem to have theories that come to me that I have no idea where they come from and when I try to explain them people just seem to go….WHAT?

I tried to explain this the other day, see if you have any idea what I’m talking about!

When we look into space we see plants/starts that are millions of years old, but because of the distance between them and us we see those planets as they were thousands/millions of years ago (distance covered divided by speed of light as to how long it’d take for it’s image to reach Earth) – This is a well documented FACT. However that means that if someone is looking at our planet from a great distance they then are seeing this planet as it was millions of years ago, possibly before any life formed, but does that mean that at any one moment in time there are billions and trillions of ‘images’ of life at the same position on Earth at the same time.

Lets look at where you are right now, wherever you are, in your bedroom, lounge, office, at work etc, is there a possibility that right now in that very space there is a battle happening between involving the Vikings, or even the Romans, is there currently a Dinosaur exactly where your sitting, but because of the time space continuum you just can’t see, hear or feel anything. Then again could that be what ghosts are! Are they breaks in the time space continuum when we see a moment of the past for a fraction of time until it corrects itself. If so why do we not see the future?

Look at your actions right now, if this theory were correct then that would mean that at every position on this planet there would have to be, in theory, images/stills and possible freeze frames would have to exist of every little movement you make and that of every living or non-living object in that exact space…if you were to freeze frame time at that precise moment! How many would that be though, millions, billions, trillions?

Is it Possible? Who knows but if the human race were to become technologically advanced to move to a planet outside of our solar system, when we look at planet Earth, what era would we be looking at it in, and if you could have immediate/instant teleporting abilities would you visit Earth as it was then or is now? (Just like the saying if a tree falls with no one around, does it make a noise?) Is this what UFO’s are? Are they instantaneous transporting devises…who knows? Who would even confess to know, let alone want to know?

What would be interesting though is that if say this all were possible, lets go a bit silly and bring Superman into the picture. Now in Superman III, Superman travels around the world so fast tat he reverses time, now this would be difficult for anything we currently have or know about to do as it’d burn up from travelling at such a velocity. Lets say for the sake of this point it is possible, would time be reversed just for Earth, or the whole solar system…or what about the universe. If it were jut Earth, how would it affect those on other planets looking in at us? What would they then see?

Now this went way over the heads of the people I was saying it too, but could it be possible rather than theory, and if so, how would it be proved…photographs, telescopes, I have no idea, I don’t confess to knowing, but is it possible or just plain madness?
Sat 01/03/03 at 22:12
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My head hurts. The most complexed theory of mine is that death could just be re-living life over and over in your mind. Almost like a dream. But that brings the question, am I already dead and I'm just re-living my life? Some people would say, well you'd remember that if you were. But what if you can't and I actually lived millions of years ago but have just been living a memory that I can't remember...

Yes. The title was right, most confusing topic.
Sat 01/03/03 at 21:50
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left. stop. thats the top. round seven grammy. I beat that with a four and grime. plart brool to the upside bottom. loud circles with measure brian.
Sat 01/03/03 at 21:44
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Dammit, I just pressed the wrong key and posted before I was ready >:(

Basically what happens is light strikes a dinosaur say, on the earth and is reflected away.

The earth continues to spin, the dinosaur becomes a fossil etc etc etc, and now I'm sitting where he was. He is no longer here but the ray of light that struck him sixty billion years ago is still travelling through space, where an observer sees it, and see an image of the earth sixty billion years ago.

However, currently theories suggest that we will never be able to see those images. In order to see those images you would have to catch up with the rays of light that have hit us, and overtake them. (travelling faster than the speed of light).

Although this would be pretty cool a guy called Einstien said it's not possible, and I'm inclined to believe him, as the faster you travel the more massive you become (E=mc2) so you get heavier and heavier until the energy to push you over the speed of light becomes infinite. To top that off, a guy called LaGrange said that according to the theory of relativity the faster you go the slower time goes. That's where it gets really complicated. The only loop hole I can see is by using a thing called the correlian effect to create an artifical worm hole (black hole) but they are extremely unstable and take the same energy as an exploding star to set up.

As for the superman thing, if he flew so fast as to turn the world on it's access (not that that's how it would work, but anyway) that wouldn't reverse time. it would just mean that for a while the world was going the other way around.

Sorry about the miss post.

If any clarification is needed I'll do my best to answer any questions you have on my reply.
Sat 01/03/03 at 21:36
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If we see a habitable planet light years away, but with no signs of life, who's to say that there isn't life on the planet at that time. The light is thousands of years old, so between then and now life could have sprung up.

It's all very confusing.
Sat 01/03/03 at 21:32
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"I ush!"
Posts: 922
Mr Lover Man wrote:
>
> When we look into space we see plants/starts that are millions of
> years old, but because of the distance between them and us we see
> those planets as they were thousands/millions of years ago (distance
> covered divided by speed of light as to how long it’d take for it’s
> image to reach Earth) – This is a well documented FACT. However that
> means that if someone is looking at our planet from a great distance
> they then are seeing this planet as it was millions of years ago,
> possibly before any life formed, but does that mean that at any one
> moment in time there are billions and trillions of ‘images’ of life at
> the same position on Earth at the same time.

Absolutely correct.

> Lets look at where you are right now, wherever you are, in your
> bedroom, lounge, office, at work etc, is there a possibility that
> right now in that very space there is a battle happening between
> involving the Vikings, or even the Romans, is there currently a
> Dinosaur exactly where your sitting, but because of the time space
> continuum you just can’t see, hear or feel anything. #

No,

> Then again could
> that be what ghosts are! Are they breaks in the time space continuum
> when we see a moment of the past for a fraction of time until it
> corrects itself. If so why do we not see the future?
>
> Look at your actions right now, if this theory were correct then that
> would mean that at every position on this planet there would have to
> be, in theory, images/stills and possible freeze frames would have to
> exist of every little movement you make and that of every living or
> non-living object in that exact space…if you were to freeze frame time
> at that precise moment! How many would that be though, millions,
> billions, trillions?
>
> Is it Possible? Who knows but if the human race were to become
> technologically advanced to move to a planet outside of our solar
> system, when we look at planet Earth, what era would we be looking at
> it in, and if you could have immediate/instant teleporting abilities
> would you visit Earth as it was then or is now? (Just like the saying
> if a tree falls with no one around, does it make a noise?) Is this
> what UFO’s are? Are they instantaneous transporting devises…who knows?
> Who would even confess to know, let alone want to know?
>
> What would be interesting though is that if say this all were
> possible, lets go a bit silly and bring Superman into the picture. Now
> in Superman III, Superman travels around the world so fast tat he
> reverses time, now this would be difficult for anything we currently
> have or know about to do as it’d burn up from travelling at such a
> velocity. Lets say for the sake of this point it is possible, would
> time be reversed just for Earth, or the whole solar system…or what
> about the universe. If it were jut Earth, how would it affect those on
> other planets looking in at us? What would they then see?
>
> Now this went way over the heads of the people I was saying it too,
> but could it be possible rather than theory, and if so, how would it
> be proved…photographs, telescopes, I have no idea, I don’t confess to
> knowing, but is it possible or just plain madness?
Sat 01/03/03 at 21:28
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"Gamertag Star Fury"
Posts: 2,710
Parallel universes are supposed to be scienctifically possible, but people sharing the same time are not. If something views earth from light years away then what it sees is relative to that time on earth, you couldn't have the situation you describe with something seeing a dinosaur at the exact moment something entirely different is happening. The time something different happens is in advance of the dinosaur viewing time.

Gah, hard to explain.

~~Belldandy~~
Sat 01/03/03 at 20:56
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"Big Pimpin'"
Posts: 664
I always seem to have theories that come to me that I have no idea where they come from and when I try to explain them people just seem to go….WHAT?

I tried to explain this the other day, see if you have any idea what I’m talking about!

When we look into space we see plants/starts that are millions of years old, but because of the distance between them and us we see those planets as they were thousands/millions of years ago (distance covered divided by speed of light as to how long it’d take for it’s image to reach Earth) – This is a well documented FACT. However that means that if someone is looking at our planet from a great distance they then are seeing this planet as it was millions of years ago, possibly before any life formed, but does that mean that at any one moment in time there are billions and trillions of ‘images’ of life at the same position on Earth at the same time.

Lets look at where you are right now, wherever you are, in your bedroom, lounge, office, at work etc, is there a possibility that right now in that very space there is a battle happening between involving the Vikings, or even the Romans, is there currently a Dinosaur exactly where your sitting, but because of the time space continuum you just can’t see, hear or feel anything. Then again could that be what ghosts are! Are they breaks in the time space continuum when we see a moment of the past for a fraction of time until it corrects itself. If so why do we not see the future?

Look at your actions right now, if this theory were correct then that would mean that at every position on this planet there would have to be, in theory, images/stills and possible freeze frames would have to exist of every little movement you make and that of every living or non-living object in that exact space…if you were to freeze frame time at that precise moment! How many would that be though, millions, billions, trillions?

Is it Possible? Who knows but if the human race were to become technologically advanced to move to a planet outside of our solar system, when we look at planet Earth, what era would we be looking at it in, and if you could have immediate/instant teleporting abilities would you visit Earth as it was then or is now? (Just like the saying if a tree falls with no one around, does it make a noise?) Is this what UFO’s are? Are they instantaneous transporting devises…who knows? Who would even confess to know, let alone want to know?

What would be interesting though is that if say this all were possible, lets go a bit silly and bring Superman into the picture. Now in Superman III, Superman travels around the world so fast tat he reverses time, now this would be difficult for anything we currently have or know about to do as it’d burn up from travelling at such a velocity. Lets say for the sake of this point it is possible, would time be reversed just for Earth, or the whole solar system…or what about the universe. If it were jut Earth, how would it affect those on other planets looking in at us? What would they then see?

Now this went way over the heads of the people I was saying it too, but could it be possible rather than theory, and if so, how would it be proved…photographs, telescopes, I have no idea, I don’t confess to knowing, but is it possible or just plain madness?

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