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"ATI or Nvidia"

Well it has come to this I'm looking at a Geforce 4ti 4200 128mb, a Geforce 4ti 4800 and a ATI radeon 9500 and 9700, the latter i have heard are more powerful than all the Geforce 4's and have seen that it can handle FSAA alot better than the Geforce 4's.
But also i have heard of some problems with some games using an ATI plus problems with their drivers..... this is all confusing for me which would you pick?

Right getting Radeon 9500... so it plays games with full FSAA etc... sweet!

Geforce 4's are basically it seems not as good as the ATIs when it comes to FSAA, but i dont play much old games so... maybe a Radeon 9500? A 9700 is hefty otherwise i'd go for a Geforce 4ti4800.

§n][pe® wrote:
> I dont care about FSAA i just want a powerful card, put everything up
> to max. 16bit, 100hz Refresh rate. ATM i manage Medium on most games,
> and high in AOM cos its less demanding.

You should care about FSAA, just in the same way you should care about the programmable shaders in the latest series of graphics cards. The polygon pushing power of modern graphics hardware is rapidly approaches that necessary for near photorealism, and texturing is not far behind. The next big thing in consumer graphics is enhancements in lighting and shaders effects - clever lighting and texture tricks, that make scenes appear far more real. Most important of all of these, perhaps, is anti-aliasing.

Someone should post a graphics card tutorial only this material seems to get more going over than most.

But preferably someone who knows them indepth or from the industry.

I dont care about FSAA i just want a powerful card, put everything up to max. 16bit, 100hz Refresh rate. ATM i manage Medium on most games, and high in AOM cos its less demanding.

There's nothing wrong with them but you get more assurance with a Nvidia card and it's detonators.

Rite, buying an ATI doesnt mean you WILL get probs it just means the likelyhood is much higher than if you buy a GF4 and if you know enough about graphics cards you can tweak them yourself to make them more stable although I cant see most of the people who want one actually learning this.
So pick what you want there are plus and minus for both cards but research and if you dont understand some of it ask someone who does before shelling out £200 plus pounds.

GL with your cards

AMD_MAN wrote:
> The ATI card are really good, powerfull cards but there drivers are
> bad, they tend to crash the computer when coming out of games and they
> all round can slow performance down, i would go for the ti4800 Geforce
> or the geforce fx.
>
> c.b.


Sorry but saying ATI's Catalyst drivers are bad is complete rubbish, just because *some* people have problems doesn't mean its the drivers, it could be anything, in fact ATI offer the best cards at the moment for the price, just shows how ATI have made a good comeback, i used to own a GF2 TI, but i have been very impressed wiht my Radeon 9700, just a little note the 4800 is just a Ti 4400 (or 4200 can't remember which) but with AGP 8x, 4200's won't cut it soon so i wouldn't reocmmend it if you want your graphics set to max.

I've got an ATI 9700, works perfectly and i've had no probs, i run tons of games on it as well.

Although i dont know as much as you think i know about computers, i researched around.