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Sun 02/02/03 at 11:31
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The Meaning of Life:

The Meaning of Life, something that people have spent countless hours pondering and never figured out. Something that even the most accredited scientists, religious leaders and masterminds cannot prove. It is the biggest question that will probably remain forever unanswered yet is the thing that can drive people to insanity. Why are we on this earth? What is our purpose in life?

I am not going to attempt to answer these questions but I am going to present you with a few ideas that came to me during several years of pondering.

The most common, and oldest, theory is that we are all here because we were created by a God. If you were a God and created a planet and life you wouldn’t do it just for a laugh now would you? We were either created as companions for God or as entertainment. Since we aren’t often chatted to by the almighty I can only assume we are in place to entertain the lord with our everyday activities. In short, our lives are just an act to entertain our creator. Our menial lives provide some simple kind of amusement in a voyeuristic kind of way and our everyday affairs are observed from above. I don’t get any comfort from this theory whatsoever and pray it isn’t true.

A lesser-recognised theory is one that states, “We were placed here to advance our race through time and space.” This rhymes so I like it a lot but it does generally make sense. From the first indication of mankind we have made such ridiculously amazing discoveries. The wheel, fire, electricity, engines, languages, civil law, social hierarchies, currencies and space travel. The earth was a place with fields, mountains and trees and humans have turned it into a world full of cities, travel routes, technology and different cultures. We are, as far as we know, the prime species here and have come a long way in the 5,000+-recorded years of history we have. We have advanced from simplistic creatures that grunted and bashed rabbits against rocks for food to civilised people that are no longer hunter-gatherers and can pick up a meal from Tesco.

A theory favoured by scientists is that we are all simply here because micro-organisms generated by the ‘big bang’ adapted to the earth and over many years we generated into humans. This theory would mean that we have no reason for being here, we are just science and sooner or later we will cease to be. We simply do not have a purpose here and nobody is more important than anyone else. We are just the divine will of countless calculations and formulas that make up the fabric of the earth. I dislike this theory as I think there must be some reason or way for us to exist.

My own theory is that each and every person is born to fulfil a destiny. Our path in life is to follow a set route in life and certain events are inevitable but others can be determined by our own actions. I like to think I am in control of my own destiny but I also like the comfort of knowing certain things are meant to be. This theory places us all into a storyboard setting and we are basically improvising a pre-written script. This shows us that we have freedom but straying too far from our set plan will cause something bad to happen. Our reason for been here is that we are meant to be here as it is written in the grand plan, some events are simply meant to be (i.e. death and birth) and this can bring comfort to us knowing that there is nothing we could have done to change things. I assume you may think this theory is quite morbid in that we don’t have control over everything but it makes a lot of sense to me.

The final theory I am going to mention is a version of reality shown in the film, ‘The Matrix’. Everyone sees their world how they wish and nobody in your world actually exists. Events and conversations are simply concocted in our minds and reality is recognising this. If you have ever known what someone was going to say before they actually said it, that is because you already invented what they were going to say in your mind. In this theory nobody is real and people only look/feel/smell/etc as they do because you wish them to in your mind. If this is true then I am writing this but nobody else will read it. Comments I get from this will simply be created in my own mind and fed back to me, if this is your reality then you already wrote this in your mind and I don’t actually exist. This is strange but I am willing to believe it, bizarre as it is.


So there you have it, my versions of existence. I don’t expect any of you to believe them or even understand them but this is many hours of my thinking and don’t want any of you to rubbish it all either because this is quite meaningful stuff to me. If you have your own ideas or versions of the meaning of life then go ahead and share them with everyone.

-kyz²²-
Tue 04/02/03 at 15:31
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Thanks to everyone for posting their theories and stuff, glad to know I am not the only one who wondered about this!
Tue 04/02/03 at 13:58
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Life has no meaning. Asking 'What is the meaning of life?' is about
> as valid as asking 'What is the meaning of that rock?'
>
> There rock is just 'there'. So are we, it's just that the rock deals
> with it better than we do.

Post of the day.
Mon 03/02/03 at 20:47
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Unless the rock has a lot of weathering, or erosion and just crumbles away
Mon 03/02/03 at 17:36
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Life has no meaning. Asking 'What is the meaning of life?' is about as valid as asking 'What is the meaning of that rock?'

There rock is just 'there'. So are we, it's just that the rock deals with it better than we do.
Mon 03/02/03 at 17:32
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We're all a dream in the Mind of God, baby! - Buddhists call it 'Samsara' - the plane of illusion.
Mon 03/02/03 at 17:25
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Oh, what I just wrote sounded a little bit like what you put about The Matrix Kyz, sorry! Strange though, haven't seen the whole movie yet!!
Mon 03/02/03 at 16:03
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Wahey, this is interesting! And even better seeing as it fits the description 'Life, The Universe & all that Jazz'.. :)

I hate thinking about the whole meaning thing, really racks my brain.

I had this 'thing', I can't even remember if it was a dream or not..

Anyhoo, I was thinking.. what if there was only ONE person on this planet, and that one person created 'everything' including humans, animals, nature with our imagination. Like being God. Kinda reminds me of Vanilla Sky.

So hard to explain!

And once every thought had been created, it justs stays there, in the memory and never gets erased.

So, everything we see everyday is just part of our imagination and what we created.. Of course there are the things that just don't make sense and you can't control, like when someone you know dies or there's a huge dilemna about to happen, or someone could be really annoying and you want them to shut up and disappear.

IF that was the case, we would be extremely brainy!

And this conversation and you people would just be another one of my creations.. or we would be YOUR creation.. :)

Crazy, I know!
I confused myself even more adding a little bit.. what if everything was like I just said.. but there were billions and billions of planets with just one person on doing all that creation stuff..

Seriously weird!


*Shut up Ms NY, please, just shut up..!*

"Tech Support!" :)


Anyway, I doubt VERY much that's the case!! :D
Mon 03/02/03 at 15:04
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"Proof is the goal of science.
Originality is the goal of art.
Power is the goal of politics.
Money is the goal of business.
Victory is the goal of war.
God is the goal of religion.
Laughter is the goal of comedy.
Love is the goal of romance.
But what is the goal of life itself?

The question, "What is the meaning of life" has throughout the ages been answered in hundreds of different ways, yet every answer remains to this day - questionable, and every conflicting point of view relevant only within the ever-turning sphere of speculation and debate.

The individual mind continually transposes all that it surveys down to its own limited level of comprehension: this is the prison without walls within which we all dwell and cannot escape.

When all is said and argued and repeated time and time again, we find ourselves as if naked in a strange wilderness clutching a single piece of paper on which is written the rather muted reminder: WINNING THE ARGUMENT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN ONE HAS WON THE TRUTH.

Complete knowing is the secret door to which no one has yet found the secret key.

But if nothing else, Man is an attempter, and his purest instinct seeks endlessly undoubtable answers to the ultimate question of questions: "What is the meaning of life?"

Answers can be heard everywhere: the meaning of life is "this", the meaning of life is "that", but no answer has yet sprung into the world that can truly claim to be free of the demon Doubt.

The pure facts of reality and truth will never be fully expressed, unless of course, God confessed."

-Said the page 3 girl to the vicar-
Sun 02/02/03 at 22:35
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Your working on the assumption that because we have consciousness we matter. The plain and simple truth is more likely that consciousness requires the self to feel that it matters to stop it harming itself and allow it to carry out functions it would other wise see as completely worthless other than continuing the genetic line which is the way nature regards us without any consciousness.

But if you do believe in a god or higher being im pretty sure he thinks of us the way we do of ants and you couldnt give a stuff about stepping on an ant could you?

And as for our advancement over the last 5000 odd years I personally believe that we have a much longer history that goes back before the end of the last ice age and that all those ancient cities are now buried under many metres of water and silt around our coastlines that make up continental shelfs that were exposed at the last ice age but inundated now. And that religions that sprang up fully formed were the oral teachings of these civilisations before the floodings and chaos of ice age melt down, and that they have been changed and twisted to suit the many situations that those scattered peoples encountered.

So I dont believe in 'a' god as a guy that sits around watching but that humans interprate the world in a way that has need of a god and that other strange forces in the universe underly everything we percieve. These strange forces the scientists are only beginning to realise in advanced theory could now exist and be essential to the unification of everything thoery

either this or i drink to much
Sun 02/02/03 at 19:25
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BEARDS. wrote:
> No no no no no. 42 is the answer to the ultimate question, not the
> meaning of life.
>
> The meaning of life is to find out what the question is.

This man speaks the truth. 42 is 'THE' answer, but the meaning of life is the partnering question. Which COULD be '84/2'. But I don't think it is.

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