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Thu 30/01/03 at 10:16
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If you dont know who Dennis Miller is, go do some research. Basically a more abstract, less billious version of Bill Hicks.
So with that pre-empt out of the way, enjoy:
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DENNIS MILLER'S EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ON THE MID-EAST CONFLICT

A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service to all Americans who still don't get it, I now offer you the story of the Middle East in just a few paragraphs, which is all you really need. Don't thank me. I'm a giver.

Here we go: the Palestinians want their own country. There's just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word.

Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient but is really a modern invention.

Before the Israelis won the land in war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no "Palestinians" then, and the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians" then. As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the "Palestinians," weeping for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation."

So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them what they are: "Other Arabs From The Same General Area Who Are In Deep Denial About Never Being Able To Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death."

I know that's a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: "Adjacent Jew-Haters."

Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing. No, they don't. They could've had their own country any time in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David. But if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living. That's no fun.

No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course-that's where the real fun is-but mostly they want Israel. Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel-or "The Zionist Entity" as their textbooks call it-for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's Earth, and if you've ever been around God's Earth, you know that's really saying something. It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim MidEast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.

Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs; five million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals. Really? Wow, what neat news.

Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea?

Oh, that? We were just kidding.

My friend Kevin Rooney made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not. Or marshalling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab state into the sea? Nonsense. Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible. Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children? Disgusting. No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.

Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that with vital operations coming up against Iraq and others, it's in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, that can't be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of supermodels who've just had their drugs taken away. However, in any big-picture strategy, there's always a danger of losing moral weight. We've already lost some. After September 11 our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them.

Beautiful. Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day) start to do the same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint. If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan. (Hey, wait a minute, that's actually not such a bad idea . . . uh, that is, what a horrible thought, yeah, horrible.)
Thu 30/01/03 at 16:16
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What was

I don't know

I can;t remember stuff
Thu 30/01/03 at 16:15
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Is that a serious comment?
Thu 30/01/03 at 16:13
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Yes actually

I read an article during the holocaust

" Don't let them Jews in "

Or along the lines
Thu 30/01/03 at 16:11
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SHEEPY wrote:
> Erm after the Second World War did they not just create Israel...
> 'joost lik tha'... so they threw out whoever lived there so the Jews
> could move in.

Yep, and partly because the allies didn't want to accept Jewish refugees themselves. Did the Daily Mail exist back then, I wonder?
Thu 30/01/03 at 16:08
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Erm after the Second World War did they not just create Israel... 'joost lik tha'... so they threw out whoever lived there so the Jews could move in.

*cue years of conflict*

Your post came across as if israel was all so innocent, which they're not.

It's Hitler's fault
Thu 30/01/03 at 16:01
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Goatboy wrote:
> That's exactly why I dont say anything about this situation either - I
> just dont understand it. It's too complex to read a couple of books
> and suddenly proclaim the answers.

It is complex but the basics are pretty simple to understand. One bunch of people have been kicked off their land to make way for another bunch of people. Since then Israel has built settlements outside its borders, thereby kicking yet more people off their land to make way for other people. That's colonialism, plain and simple. And all this stuff happened before the suicide bombings that are now used as justification for occupation.

As for this 'What have the Arabs done...' stuff: it's nothing more than racist bs that, replacing the word Arabs with Jews, would sound remarkably like a 'comedy' version of Hitler.
Thu 30/01/03 at 15:00
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I almost became a Secondary Science teacher, did the training etc-hellish(even taught at a Middle School-another oddity) and it's surprising how little kids know in a classroom environment but put the question on an internet forum and suddenly they are all experts.

Blair is posting one today: "How do we improve the transport infrastructure of our country without compromising the economy or increasing taxes".
Thu 30/01/03 at 14:49
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> HalloHowArtThou wrote:
> i write something about the topic and it gets ignored. ugh.
>
> I read it mate, but I don't really know what to say to it :/

wow, someone read it.. that must be a first ;-P
Thu 30/01/03 at 14:39
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HalloHowArtThou wrote:
> i write something about the topic and it gets ignored. ugh.

I read it mate, but I don't really know what to say to it :/
Thu 30/01/03 at 14:37
"slightlyshortertagl"
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i write something about the topic and it gets ignored. ugh.

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