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Thu 09/01/03 at 15:43
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Please, I beg everyone who reads this to watch the Japanese version of this film and not the Emperialist Yankee one!

Repect Sadako.
Fri 10/01/03 at 15:56
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The Japanese may have what some would see as an "extreme" cinema, but they also have impressively low crime rates, especially in relation to sex-crimes.

So all those "anime makes people bad" activists can just take a look at the materials place of origin, the land of the rising sun.
Fri 10/01/03 at 14:45
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Goatboy wrote:

> They may have nice food, a way with technology and one of the safest
> cultures in the world but daaaaaamn do they have issues

This is true, the Japanease are responsible for some of the most extreme and depraived cinema you're ever likely to see. You only have to watch the Guinea Pig series to find that out, Charlie Sheen of all people mistook these for snuff films and reported them to the authorities. Not nice films at all.

But when it comes to originality in modern Horror, Asian cinema is the place to look.

American Horror has pretty much gone down the toilet since about the mid 90's. But hopefully when Romero finally gets round to filming his new 'dead' film this might make a bit of a turn around in the genre.
Fri 10/01/03 at 13:15
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"Infantalised Forums"
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"Guts of a Virgin"???
I'm not watching that, it just sounds nasty. Like a porno made with Hobos.

They may have nice food, a way with technology and one of the safest cultures in the world but daaaaaamn do they have issues
Fri 10/01/03 at 13:02
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I'm with Goatboy on this one. I thought The RIng was a load of old tosh.

Go get hold of copy's of 'Ichi The Killer', 'The Eye' and 'Guts of a Virgin' for some amazing (extreme) Asian Horror. None of that Ring garbage.
Fri 10/01/03 at 12:44
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"TheShiznit.co.uk"
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"If that phone rings and we answer it, we're sure to die. So let's answer it."

Things I would do if I was in Ring:
Not watch the film
Not answer the phone
Not go down the well
Not be in the film

It'd be better if Freddy Kreuger's tongue came out of the phone when they answer it.
Fri 10/01/03 at 11:43
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I saw the original Ring and thought it was bobbins.
Hence I shall not bother watching Verbinski's version.

Remakes of originals can be good, but mostly they suck. Take "The Vanishing". The original Dutch version is fantastic, remade for the US market (by the same director) and they changed the ending for a nice happy one, thereby destroying the entire point of the film and making yet another generic flick for US teens.
Fri 10/01/03 at 11:26
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Yeah, i think you get the point.
Fri 10/01/03 at 11:18
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'The seven samurai' (Shichinin no samurai) is a great film by Akira Kurasowa. But 'the Maggnificent seven' for all its westen glory and great cast line up with superb acting is also a very good film. In the same vain you forgot to mentaion other remakes of 'the seven samauri', such as 'Battle Beyond the Stars' and 'Bugs Life'

On your second point 'for a few dollors more' is a sequeal to 'A fit full of dollars' and not a remake. Plus 'A fist full of Dollars' is a remake of another Jappanes film 'Yojimbo'.

But I agree with your point it dosent defile films they are not destroying the origanal, there just seasing a money making opotunatiy. As they can buy the whole rights lock stock (and get a decent well tested film)rather than pay for nummrous script writers and plot divelops to come up with a new and fresh idea. Which in one way is a shame. But some directors can inject new life into classics. An example being 'A fist full of Dollars', which in turn sporned two great sequels. Also Brian De Plamer's
update of 'Scarface' i feal is a lot better than the origonal 1932 Ben Hecht film. Partly owing to Al Pacinos great acting abbilaty. Plus if that film was nether remade in to its heddinistic 80s glory. GTA Vice City would have lost many of its fine touches.

So to put a point on my ramblings there will allwas be remakes and theres no harm in that. But as long as people are aware that, that is what they are, they can then go search out the origanl for them selfs. Which may or may not be better.
Fri 10/01/03 at 10:43
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Oh, I see. You're complaining because someone has remade a film you like in a language more people can understand.

How stupid. People seem to act like the film is being defiled by being remade, and perhaps it is, but the original film still exists for any who want to see it, so what's the problem?

Personally, I think "The Magnificent Seven" is a shallow hole of a movie, an almost scene for scene rip-off of "The Seven Samurai", and why watch "For a Few Dollars More", or "Last Man Standing" which are similar rip-offs of "Usagi Yojimbo, The Samurai Warrior".

Why watch them? The original movies are better.

Originals are usually the best. Perhaps. What about the remake of The Fly? The original was a load of crap. The Cronenberg remake was absolutely superior.

Now, say series 2 of friends is better than series 1 of friends. Why watch series 1 if series 2 is better?

Perhaps because it is different?
Thu 09/01/03 at 17:25
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"cachoo"
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pb wrote:
> That's exactly what I said in my post about 4 months ago, citing both
> this and Vanilla Sky (I have Abre Los Ojos on DVD from Spain).
>

Did you understand Vanilla Sky? I've watched it about 4 times, but only to try and understand what's going on! Now I finally do, but I don't get the ending... did he wake up?

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