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Sat 04/01/03 at 21:29
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Y'know, nowadays I often find myself asking myself, what happened to the WWE? It's just ever since the idea of the rosters came in, everything has gone downhill. Vince has fired some of the most entertaining wrestlers, for example, Viscera & Gangrel. Pathetic new wrestlers like Randy Orton and John Cena have come in when some of us, (example - me) could walk in their, and show real personality, cut a promo, start a storyline. Not just come in one day and decide to wrestle. The WWE needs entertaining superstars like The Rock and Stone Cold. They come in, cut a promo, and everybody knows why they're there. If some fool walks in, wrestles a match, then walks out, what's the use in that? The fans don't know what his purpose is! (I hope your getting all this. If not, read bits again.)

Now, a few questions:
Why is Stephanie the owner of SmackDown?
Why is Vince the CEO?
What happened to Linda McMahon?
Who the hell is Eric Bischoff?
Why fire wrestlers just because they're on steroids?

Another thing is changes. Too many changes have taken place lately; here are some that shouldn't have been made:
The SmackDown! logo. It's nice and modern, but what's up with that silver ring apron?!
The Heat look and music. They ruined it.
Al Snow. Where's head?
Edge and Christian splitting up.
The Dudley Boyz splitting up.
The Undertaker change
Kane's constant change of attire and obvious unburnt face. (It ruins the whole persona)

There are probably more but I can't think of them right now.

What I'm saying is remember 1999? The last year that WWF was great. It had good storylines, great wrestlers, The Brood, everything!

Darn. I had so much else I was gonna say but I've forgotten it all now. I guess that'll do for the time being.

...nuff said.

P.S) I'll post more later when it comes back to me.
Tue 07/01/03 at 18:41
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"sdomehtongng"
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It was Lesnar on the plane, as well.

Mr. Perfect - Fired for fighting with Lesnar.

Scott Hall - Fired for just generally causing trouble constantly - not only on the plane back, but he appeared drunk at the RAW the next day, and was in no fit to wrestle, despite being scheduled

Brock Lesnar - Not fired for fighting with Mr. Perfect.

Ric Flair - Not fired for running up and down the aisles of the plane shouting "Whoooooo!", while wearing only his large blue jacket. Probably wasn't fired because of his 'importance' to the company, and the storylines, or something of that nature.
Tue 07/01/03 at 18:30
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Thanks GrandPrix, If it was Lesnar who fought on the plane the wwe wouldn't be giving him the spotlight that he is in now, possibly wwe champ twice come wrestlemania because he is the favourite for the rumble and rumble winners almost always gets the title at wrestlemania, king of the ring winner, and one of the most feared characters in the wwe, they would have at least suspended him for a while or fire him like Mr. Perfect
Tue 07/01/03 at 16:28
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"Brooklyn boy"
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i thought it was Brock Lesnar who fought with Mr Perfect on 'the plane ride from hell'
Mon 06/01/03 at 20:51
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"Too Orangy For Crow"
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Sgt. Military wrote:

> Why split Michaels and HHH? - Because HHH wanted to give the title to someone he knew he was going to get it back from.

> Why change Stephanie from a slapper to an honest resectable person? - They've got to try something new.

> Why fire someone in the calibre of Scott Hall just for fighting on a
> plane with a low-down good for nothing useless Mr. Perfect? - Scott Hall was fired for more than that. I'm sure of it.

> Why spoil HHH by making him a champ and always winning while he never
> wrestles on a normal Raw show lately? - HHH does what he wants. He cares more about his status than his wrestling ability.

That's what I think anyway. As for your other questions, I don't know. Perhaps they couldn't expand the shows. Taker is considered a locker room leader. Not sure if that helps.
Mon 06/01/03 at 20:42
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Why split Michaels and HHH?
Why make a draft when you could just extend the shows by an hour or so?
Why chage Stephanie from a slapper to an honest resectable person?
Why fire someone in the calibre of Scott Hall just for fighting on a plane with a low-down good for nothing useless Mr. Perfect?
Why spoil HHH by making him a champ and always winning while he never wrestles on a normal Raw show lately?
Why give Lesnar so much respect in his first year while Taker has been trying for 12 and still isnt considered in the league of Lesnar?
Mon 06/01/03 at 16:31
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"sdomehtongng"
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†hë_Çøñg_Mðñ wrote:
> IS a trained kickboxer.

---

That'll be why he used various kicking and punching combos in WCW Revenge.

:-D
Mon 06/01/03 at 15:26
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"Brooklyn boy"
Posts: 14,935
AfroJoe wrote:

> Why fire wrestlers just because they're on steroids?

Because unlike Triple H they're not sleeping with the boss's daughter so can't get away with doing that.
Mon 06/01/03 at 14:11
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Just to clear up any confusion about Bischoff...
HE wasn't in charge when WCW went bust.
He isn't a trained wrestler
BUT
IS a trained kickboxer.
His past with WCW before taking charge was as a mere commentator!

So now you know...
Oh and he isn't as good a thinker as people believe he is and he's certainly not in the same league as Paul Heyman
Sun 05/01/03 at 16:19
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"I dont like tagline"
Posts: 304
Tazz wrote:
> Y'know, nowadays I often find myself asking myself, what happened to
> the WWE? It's just ever since the idea of the rosters came in,
> everything has gone downhill. Vince has fired some of the most
> entertaining wrestlers, for example, Viscera & Gangrel. Pathetic
> new wrestlers like Randy Orton and John Cena have come in when some of
> us, (example - me) could walk in their, and show real personality, cut
> a promo, start a storyline. Not just come in one day and decide to
> wrestle. The WWE needs entertaining superstars like The Rock and Stone
> Cold. They come in, cut a promo, and everybody knows why they're
> there. If some fool walks in, wrestles a match, then walks out, what's
> the use in that? The fans don't know what his purpose is! (I hope your
> getting all this. If not, read bits again.)
>
> Now, a few questions:
> Why is Stephanie the owner of SmackDown?
> Why is Vince the CEO?
> What happened to Linda McMahon?
> Who the hell is Eric Bischoff?
> Why fire wrestlers just because they're on steroids?
>
> Another thing is changes. Too many changes have taken place lately;
> here are some that shouldn't have been made:
> The SmackDown! logo. It's nice and modern, but what's up with that
> silver ring apron?!
> The Heat look and music. They ruined it.
> Al Snow. Where's head?
> Edge and Christian splitting up.
> The Dudley Boyz splitting up.
> The Undertaker change
> Kane's constant change of attire and obvious unburnt face. (It ruins
> the whole persona)
>
> There are probably more but I can't think of them right now.
>
> What I'm saying is remember 1999? The last year that WWF was great. It
> had good storylines, great wrestlers, The Brood, everything!
>
> Darn. I had so much else I was gonna say but I've forgotten it all
> now. I guess that'll do for the time being.
>
> ...nuff said.
>
> P.S) I'll post more later when it comes back to me.

I aggree with you for most of these things such as the undertaker change, the dudleys split, the edge and chritian split and i also think the Hardyz should not have split either. I think the best years of the WWF/WWE were 1997-1999, especially during the times of DX, the NOD, the Ministry, the Corparation and the famous Austin vs Macmahon fued, which resulted in some great wrestlemanias (two great Austin vs Rock matches).

I stopped wacthing WWE till recently because i found the storylines to be too poor and could not be bothered. I only checked it out a few times for the Invasion and the Draft storylines but got bored again. But it has begun to get a little better and i am now used to there being two rosters Raw is my favorite. I really did get annoyed though when they started making you pay to wacth certain PPVs especially my favorite one the Royal Rumble so i have to do without those because i am not willing to pay £15 pounds for a show.
Sun 05/01/03 at 16:05
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"I dont like tagline"
Posts: 304
Did any one not see the Royal Rumble advert during RAW then? It was and advert for the Royal Rumble featuring only the Undertaker in his 'darkside' days and at the end there was a message saying something like 'the darkness wil consume the light' and then then Royal Rumble Logo appeared.

I gues this may mean the Undertaker goes back to the 'Darkside' which for me is better than the 'American Badass'. I wont know till the Raw after the Royal Rumble though because i dont want to pay £15 to watch the Rumble even though it is my favorite PPV.

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